[Nextgrid]

How is having an ID card a requirement to tattoo a number on your arm? Nobody is advocating for mandatory "ID please" checkpoints everywhere, merely providing a standardized way to pass through existing checkpoints (AML/KYC in the bank, etc).

[brigandish]

> Nobody is advocating for mandatory "ID please" checkpoints everywhere

Why would anyone who wanted mandatory "ID please" checkpoints advocate for them before introducing ID cards when:

a) it makes no sense to advocate for them prior, there’s a natural sequence of dependencies.

b) it would hinder the introduction of ID cards and hence, mandatory "ID please" checkpoints.

[pjc50]

> a) it makes no sense to advocate for them prior, there’s a natural sequence of dependencies.

We had that back when the government made it mandatory to have ID to be employed or have a bank account or rent a house. Not having an ID scheme didn't prevent it being made a requirement.

[brigandish]

Then what is the need for an ID card?

[Am4TIfIsER0ppos]

We had a trial run of "papers please" just a couple of years ago. You were forbidden from traveling more than 1km from your house lest you get fined 1500 euros.