[brigandish]

> Nobody is advocating for mandatory "ID please" checkpoints everywhere

Why would anyone who wanted mandatory "ID please" checkpoints advocate for them before introducing ID cards when:

a) it makes no sense to advocate for them prior, there’s a natural sequence of dependencies.

b) it would hinder the introduction of ID cards and hence, mandatory "ID please" checkpoints.

[pjc50]

> a) it makes no sense to advocate for them prior, there’s a natural sequence of dependencies.

We had that back when the government made it mandatory to have ID to be employed or have a bank account or rent a house. Not having an ID scheme didn't prevent it being made a requirement.

[brigandish]

Then what is the need for an ID card?