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by ESTheComposer 1133 days ago
In 2020 California had more hate crime than Texas: https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crim...

Edit: Actually I checked 2017-2020 and every year had way more hate crimes than Texas. CA has ~33% more population, but had triple the hate crimes. In 2021 CA somehow dropped from thousand+ hate crimes to like 40, so I'm guessing something is up with the data there.
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shjake 1133 days ago
> In 2020 California had more hate crime than Texas

Well there were significantly more cases of rape reported in Sweden than in most African or South Asian countries (and I mean up to 40 times more or so…). Something similar might be at play here.

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ESTheComposer 1133 days ago
I understand what you’re getting at but 94% of precincts in Texas reported these stats willingly and 97% in California, so I don’t think it’s underreporting.
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shjake 1133 days ago
Is the definition of what constitutes a ‘hate crime’ the same in Texas and California? (Probably one of the main reasons which explain the situation in Sweden)

Are people in Texas just as willing to report it as in California?

etc.

I’m not saying that hate crime is necessarily more prevalent in Texas. I have no clue. It just seems like a weird comparison to make when it’s not that clear you’re not comparing oranges to apples..

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ESTheComposer 1133 days ago
I mean both stats are from the FBI's database and they use all of this data to track hate crimes, so it's as close to apples and apples as you will get.

I find it more weird that you're immediately doubting the data because it goes against pre conceived notions.

Also from the website itself the definition is: "The FBI Uniform Crime Reporting Program defines hate crime as a committed criminal offense which is motivated, in whole or in part, by the offender’s bias(es) against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, ethnicity, gender, or gender identity."

Looking at the data again personally I find it interesting that there was no anti white crime reported in CA but it was the third most reported hate crime in Texas

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shjake 1133 days ago
> I find it interesting that there was no anti white crime reported in CA but it was the third most reported hate crime in Texas

Isn’t that a fairly good indicator that the data is not necessarily comparable between the two states?

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ESTheComposer 1133 days ago
I don’t think so no. I’m curious what you think is a better source of data than the FBI who has a standardize definition of hate crime and collects it from all 50 states?

I’m not sure how much more comparable you can get, and if we go along your logic then the original point of this thread, which is that some people feel threatened in red states (apparently) because of their sexuality or similar, then there is no data that would ever validate or go against that mentality, since the data from each state by the federal bureau is not comparable right?

Then if we start going with anecdotes it gets nowhere because I’ve lived in both Texas and California and have traveled to many blue and red states and have seen way more discrimination/racism in blue states. But that’s a personal anecdote

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