[shjake]

Is the definition of what constitutes a ‘hate crime’ the same in Texas and California? (Probably one of the main reasons which explain the situation in Sweden)

Are people in Texas just as willing to report it as in California?

etc.

I’m not saying that hate crime is necessarily more prevalent in Texas. I have no clue. It just seems like a weird comparison to make when it’s not that clear you’re not comparing oranges to apples..

[ESTheComposer]

I mean both stats are from the FBI's database and they use all of this data to track hate crimes, so it's as close to apples and apples as you will get.

I find it more weird that you're immediately doubting the data because it goes against pre conceived notions.

Also from the website itself the definition is: "The FBI Uniform Crime Reporting Program defines hate crime as a committed criminal offense which is motivated, in whole or in part, by the offender’s bias(es) against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, ethnicity, gender, or gender identity."

Looking at the data again personally I find it interesting that there was no anti white crime reported in CA but it was the third most reported hate crime in Texas

[shjake]

> I find it interesting that there was no anti white crime reported in CA but it was the third most reported hate crime in Texas

Isn’t that a fairly good indicator that the data is not necessarily comparable between the two states?

[ESTheComposer]

I don’t think so no. I’m curious what you think is a better source of data than the FBI who has a standardize definition of hate crime and collects it from all 50 states?

I’m not sure how much more comparable you can get, and if we go along your logic then the original point of this thread, which is that some people feel threatened in red states (apparently) because of their sexuality or similar, then there is no data that would ever validate or go against that mentality, since the data from each state by the federal bureau is not comparable right?

Then if we start going with anecdotes it gets nowhere because I’ve lived in both Texas and California and have traveled to many blue and red states and have seen way more discrimination/racism in blue states. But that’s a personal anecdote

[shjake]

if there are no reports of “ anti white crime ” in California however it’s not uncommon in Texas is it more likely that white people are never the target of hate crimes in California or that is’s under reported there (or over reported in Texas)?

[ESTheComposer]

Having lived in both states, probably all of the above