[throwwwaway69]

You can’t be serious. We need porn to stop ugly men from raping women?

I’m pro ethical pornography. But still this is a weird argument for it.

The only argument that matters is whether the person making pornography is consenting to it and isn’t being taken advantage of. That second part is very tricky with a very wide spectrum of opinions.

[thrwaway0987]

There is good evidence that legalized sex work in the form of porn, prostitution, strip clubs, etc. reduce the incidence of sex crimes. For instance: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/328512426_The_Effec...

[anonymouskimmer]

Prostitutes get physically assaulted an average of once a month. That's without factoring in pressure to engage in sex acts they aren't comfortable with. And the death rate is about 1 in 500 per year. https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/prostitution-in-the-united...

Are these crimes against prostitutes factored in to the total incidence of sex crimes? I just briefly looked at your link and can't tell.

We're potentially dealing with a "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas" situation here.

[cat_plus_plus]

Should we ban delivery drivers who have the highest murder rates of all professions including cops or just work on making cities more safe so that people are protected from violence regardless of profession?

[anonymouskimmer]

Prostitutes have a higher murder rate. The BLS, which tracks danger of jobs, states on their website that they do not track illegal jobs.

For delivery drivers you just need to make "the streets" safer. For prostitutes you have to manage their workplace, which could be the john's house, or a random motel.

[account42]

> which could be the john's house, or a random motel

Then maybe change it so they can have a safe and legal place of business.

[cat_plus_plus]

Mmm, make jobs illegal so that workers can't reach out to police / be protected with workspace regulation and then say they should be illegal because they are dangerous...

[anonymouskimmer]

Even in countries where prostitution is legal, prostitutes still get abused, and are pressured to not report crimes (just like employees of regular jobs are pressured to not report on the job accidents).

[cat_plus_plus]

You still has not explained your alternative plan and how it is going to scale in current society. Rape is an extreme case, there are also drunk (but not drugged/passed out) one night stands and men lying about their intentions/finances/etc. Isn't it better that the woman at least gets paid in an honest transaction? Speaking of drunk, few would argue that booze is an overall benefit to society, but we tried prohibition and saw how that turned out. So yes, adulting can include accepting unpleasant truths and choosing the lesser evil.