[gwoolhurme]

Yeah I really hate this line of argument as well. We obviously understand it can have a lot of beneficial effects in society. It's a strawman to say that people don't see that. The problem is nobody seems to be properly discussing the bad things that can and will occur.

[bugglebeetle]

We can of course also judge the track record on this kind of techno-optimist rhetoric. People expressed all the same lofty ideals about social media, almost all of which have been outweighed by what we really got: anger-driven addiction, micro-targeted propaganda, turn-key state surveillance, and teenagers attempting suicide at all time highs.

[brigadier132]

> People expressed all the same lofty ideals about social media

Who (that wasn't a billionaire owner of a social media company)? Also, major strawman.

[nullsense]

Now take that and 100x it.

[brigadier132]

> We obviously understand it can have a lot of beneficial effects in society

Really? Because nobody seems to be talking about them. You talk about how bad things "will" occur. What about bad things that are literally happening right now?

[xiphias2]

Maybe think of the children.

Why should they go to school at all? Why should they study? What should they study? What should I tell them?

A person who works in tourism just told me that he wants to learn something safer, because he had no job during COVID, so he started studying web design. All I could tell him is that that job has peaked, and I believe tourism is safer at this point.

[Turing_Machine]

What will all the serfs and slaves do for a living, now that we have tractors and combine harvesters?

I mean, that's > 90% of all jobs! How will we cope with 90% unemployment?

(it should be obvious that this is not serious... humanity has survived "machines are taking all the jobs" many times before, and it will survive this one too)

[birdyrooster]

Maybe they shouldn’t? Jesus what is with people shaming others for not attaining some arbitrary level of education and career?

[ChatGTP]

Ok so what will they be doing instead ?

[yellowapple]

Playing? Actually enjoying their childhoods?

[ChatGTP]

Then, where do they get money from and food, will that be provided for fee by AGIs? Who will own the AGI systems ? How will they ensure they’re in alignment with the children’s goals ?

[ChatGTP]

Do you think throwing “AI” problems at scale into this mix is a good thing to do right now ?

[JumpCrisscross]

> What about bad things that are literally happening right now?

Our lives are good. No child loses sleep for the bogeyman under the neighbor's bed.