[eimrine]

How about just talking as much time as possible?

Books are always boring, especially ebooks. Games can not be creative, except of maybe sport activities. Just go somewhere outdoors and who knows maybe you will manage to buy some good books or maybe you will manage to find some street games to explore. Walking and talking about the right things is the very source of our culture, Pythagoreans used to educate themselves in this way.

If you are just going to throw at her the device which is got to be charged with all the best links you will find here - it won't work, those devices are made in such a way to make the user to be used nowadays.

[schwartzworld]

Your comment is so weird and tone-deaf. Someone asks for game recommendations and you tut tut at them for it. If you don't have anything constructive to contribute to the conversation, why comment at all?

> How about just talking as much time as possible?

If OPs seven year old is anything like mine, this is the default. Getting them to stop talking to you is the trick. Sounds selfish and shitty right? But nobody can talk to a seven year old all day every day while on vacation. "Why don't you just talk for 12 hours a day for an entire week straight?" Ridiculous.

And it's worth noting that the cat is out of the bag by 7: they know video games exist and want to use them. Because so many of them are low quality, parents may have to seek recommendations like this thread.

[eimrine]

Consider this as a game advice but not a technological game.

> they know video games exist and want to use them. Because so many of them are low quality, parents may have to seek recommendations like this thread.

But also they know that a not-advised-by-parents games do exists as well and they are pretty easy to reach on the same device which can run every link or ebook from this topic. Tiktok/insta/whatever will magnetize them and this addictive bond has to be considered.

[prawn]

OP didn't necessarily specify digital games. There are physical creative/STEM games that they can buy online from a link.

[eimrine]

That's unleash a discussion on whether electrical engineering toys (usually they are like Arduino but more childish) fits to a girl or girls are better to be kind of social-oriented persons. Personally my take is that it is perfectly OK to learn electronics for 7 y.o. girl but no game can unleash child's interest in any topic.

Science spreading must be similar to religion spreading. There are neither Christian/Muslim/whatever games nor books but new believers are keep appearing. Please observe/research their attitude, religious adepts of every religion are very interesting subject of learning.

It's interesting to observe how controvert is my root comment based on rate change, now it has a low rate but when the topic was new it used to be appreciated.

[schwartzworld]

> That's unleash a discussion on whether electrical engineering toys fits to a girl

I think the jury is back on that one and has been for some time. I can't even imagine what might be wrong with teaching a girl electronics. How do you feel about teaching them reading and math?

> Science spreading must be similar to religion spreading

Where does this mandate come from? People believing in what is verifiable mandates also teaching them lies as well? For every fact you learn, you should learn an unverifiable myth as well?

> There are neither Christian/Muslim/whatever games nor books

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_video_games https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/211920/bible-themed-board... https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Children's-Christian-Boo... https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Christian-Self-Help/zgbs...

A quick google search shows that this assertion is wrong.

> but new believers are keep appearing.

Sure, in baby bassinets. More people are leaving religion than convert to it

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2015/05/12/chapter-2-re...

[eimrine]

> More people are leaving religion than convert to it

This statement has nothing to do with my statements. All you need to see is that religion involvement starts very early, usually 40 days in Christianity. I want science people to learn something from this fact.

> A quick google search shows that this assertion is wrong.

Why are you ignoring thousands of years of history? No religious adept became a religious adept because of books or games. Even more: trend of declining religion as you have mentioned started when all those books and games starts to be produced (reminds me Jevons paradox in the sence of the more religious books/games for kids are there in the market the less religious penetration is observed among the kids). Talks is what matters, I do not understand why do I need to repeat this triviality for so many times.

> Where does this mandate come from? People believing in what is verifiable mandates also teaching them lies as well? For every fact you learn, you should learn an unverifiable myth as well?

I am not telling about teaching lies, I am telling about teaching early. Am I really seem like so unintelligent person to accuse me in encouraging of telling lies?

> I think the jury is back on that one and has been for some time. I can't even imagine what might be wrong with teaching a girl electronics. How do you feel about teaching them reading and math?

In my country one is supposed for girls is to be a social persons rather than engineers. Girls in our country use to do shopping, to cook meals etc etc. Reading is OK for girls in our country but math is slightly over. I do not agree with this statement but I have a personal story when I refused to be a godfather of my close friend's daughter just because she is a girl. I told my friend that if I became a godfather of his kid, I see my role as science teacher (I have not my own kids if it is important and my atheistic mind does not restrict to become a spare father for my friend's kid which anyway is going to be baptised). When the kid has born and we realized that the kid is a girl, me and my friend decided that my attitude is incompatible with our culture's view of what is good/bad for girl.

This is my personal pain story, that explains why am I so active in this topic and why I consider every downvote for me is wrong and seems that I have enough verbosely explained my idea (which I tried to describe in the top comment) to consider myself as boring to read.