[eimrine]

That's unleash a discussion on whether electrical engineering toys (usually they are like Arduino but more childish) fits to a girl or girls are better to be kind of social-oriented persons. Personally my take is that it is perfectly OK to learn electronics for 7 y.o. girl but no game can unleash child's interest in any topic.

Science spreading must be similar to religion spreading. There are neither Christian/Muslim/whatever games nor books but new believers are keep appearing. Please observe/research their attitude, religious adepts of every religion are very interesting subject of learning.

It's interesting to observe how controvert is my root comment based on rate change, now it has a low rate but when the topic was new it used to be appreciated.

[schwartzworld]

> That's unleash a discussion on whether electrical engineering toys fits to a girl

I think the jury is back on that one and has been for some time. I can't even imagine what might be wrong with teaching a girl electronics. How do you feel about teaching them reading and math?

> Science spreading must be similar to religion spreading

Where does this mandate come from? People believing in what is verifiable mandates also teaching them lies as well? For every fact you learn, you should learn an unverifiable myth as well?

> There are neither Christian/Muslim/whatever games nor books

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_video_games https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/211920/bible-themed-board... https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Children's-Christian-Boo... https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Christian-Self-Help/zgbs...

A quick google search shows that this assertion is wrong.

> but new believers are keep appearing.

Sure, in baby bassinets. More people are leaving religion than convert to it

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2015/05/12/chapter-2-re...

[eimrine]

> More people are leaving religion than convert to it

This statement has nothing to do with my statements. All you need to see is that religion involvement starts very early, usually 40 days in Christianity. I want science people to learn something from this fact.

> A quick google search shows that this assertion is wrong.

Why are you ignoring thousands of years of history? No religious adept became a religious adept because of books or games. Even more: trend of declining religion as you have mentioned started when all those books and games starts to be produced (reminds me Jevons paradox in the sence of the more religious books/games for kids are there in the market the less religious penetration is observed among the kids). Talks is what matters, I do not understand why do I need to repeat this triviality for so many times.

> Where does this mandate come from? People believing in what is verifiable mandates also teaching them lies as well? For every fact you learn, you should learn an unverifiable myth as well?

I am not telling about teaching lies, I am telling about teaching early. Am I really seem like so unintelligent person to accuse me in encouraging of telling lies?

> I think the jury is back on that one and has been for some time. I can't even imagine what might be wrong with teaching a girl electronics. How do you feel about teaching them reading and math?

In my country one is supposed for girls is to be a social persons rather than engineers. Girls in our country use to do shopping, to cook meals etc etc. Reading is OK for girls in our country but math is slightly over. I do not agree with this statement but I have a personal story when I refused to be a godfather of my close friend's daughter just because she is a girl. I told my friend that if I became a godfather of his kid, I see my role as science teacher (I have not my own kids if it is important and my atheistic mind does not restrict to become a spare father for my friend's kid which anyway is going to be baptised). When the kid has born and we realized that the kid is a girl, me and my friend decided that my attitude is incompatible with our culture's view of what is good/bad for girl.

This is my personal pain story, that explains why am I so active in this topic and why I consider every downvote for me is wrong and seems that I have enough verbosely explained my idea (which I tried to describe in the top comment) to consider myself as boring to read.

[defrost]

Countries and cultures differ.

When I think about things suitable for girls between the ages of five and ten I think about the things that girls of my generation did at that age, things my children did at that age and things my grand children do at that age.

Glass blowing, lost wax metal casting, plaiting ropes, pulleys, levers, looking after chickens for eggs and meat, feeding and tending animals, basic mechanics, mathematics, map reading, rock climbing, camping ...

Girls I attended school with are now running GIS companies after careers as electricians, running universities (after STEM careers building robots and developing medical imaging equipment), teaching as professors, retired after building up, managing, and selling companies, etc.

It seems a shame that girls in your country seem to have limited oppotunities and I hope that changes for the better in years to come.

[schwartzworld]

> Am I really seem like so unintelligent person to accuse me in encouraging of telling lies?

Probably you are intelligent, but your responses make you seem kind of ignorant and tone deaf. If a friend of mine implied my girls weren't suitable to any field of of study based on gender, I would lose a lot of respect for them. It's not 1850 anymore.