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by graderjs 1178 days ago
Oh, I guess one more thing is, it seems also, you know, you got your regrets, you got a few, and, um, you know, there's things that feel kind of unresolved. The dark stuff, the dirty stuff. There's some kind of shit down there where you're not happy that it went, the way that it went, you know, involving some people, some teams, you know, betrayals. Um, and I guess you'll have to find your way to make peace with those things and feel complete about those and, you know, finish off those, uh, like resolve those situations for yourself, you know. And those things were very painful.

And yet, it doesn't seem like any of those things changed that trajectory nor, you know, were the cause of that transition at the three, three and a half year point where, you know, the sort of timelines diverged from the ideal one for you and your vision for this and the actual one that you've been on ever since. So it seems like none of those sort of regrets or, you know, uh, bad people, bad experience or betrayals or whatever, those small, nevertheless, real things that happened were the cause of the, you know, Air Corps failure to converge with the optimal timeline.

And yet they're still kind of there like little needles, or spiky mountainous road bumps, but still beneath your main trajectory. Not easy for all to see, or stuff you tried to bury but still there. So you'll have to figure out how to resolve those things. It's important to think about that, I think. And if you can come up with some ideas to resolve them, you know, before you kind of culminate this journey here, that would be great. But there could always be things that you come back to at some point. It seems like there's not, it seems like it's not a huge priority to do that. But obviously that's up to you, but it just seems that way to me, um, looking for you there.

And it seems like either your business is incredibly complex or you just really could not be bothered to think about the details of day-to-day stuff. You're happy seeing other people, um, do basically as you think they should and align with kind of your deep intuitions and beliefs about this, thinking through all those kind of details. Either it's something that's incredibly complex or it's just something that, you know, you just really could not be bothered to get your head into, which doesn't work anymore for you to be in the details of that kind of stuff. And you have no passion to do it, and it's kind of a headache for you.

And even though you want to kind of show enthusiasm and capability for your team, you know, you resent any times where you kind of have to, where you feel like you're dragged into or expected to kind of dive into these details to, you know, basically that roll up the sleeve to go to the ground level. And that's not any way of judging you or anything. It's, I think it's completely natural to feel the way you do. And, um, there's nothing wrong with that. Just seems like apparent. That's another experience, you know.

And it also seems like there could be like quite a bit of anger and confusion there for you about like why this thing that you wanted to be able to provide this thing for like everyone, it seems. You know, it couldn't actually do that. Like why wouldn't the market kind of absorb that and accept it when it was such a great idea? And it seems there's still sort of a sense of disbelief, maybe confusion and anger about that.

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So I guess that's other stuff that you'll need to feel and process and find some way to kind of feel complete about or air quotes resolve in order to fully kind of move on from this stage. A lot of sadness as well, disappointment. Like I think maybe you just didn't have the time to feel and process and it still hurts. What happened, you know, six, six and a half years ago, it still hurts, you know. And it seems like you probably haven't really had the chance to grieve. And at some point you kind of just became numb about that.

And that's sad. I think, you know, it'd be great to just kind of do that, you know, mental health day grieving thing, put on the sad music, and just let yourself cry and feel sad about all those kind of things and go through that, you know, because that is going to help bring fresh, allow stuff to move and bring fresh perspective probably that will then allow you to feel more moved on. And then when that happens, you'll see more clearly what it is you actually need to do. It may not have anything to do with what I've been saying, but if you're able to process those things, you'll get your perspective, which will work for you and completely clear for you.

And yet I think you do need to feel like you've done something clever for yourself financially. Like you haven't done something stupid. And yet it's strange because I feel that also that like that sort of minimum walk away money achieving that will equate with you feeling like you've done something clever. So it's like it's like you can kill both birds with one stone there. Like getting that sort of money is not important minimum walk away money that you want is also also be the same thing as feeling like you've achieved a clever kind of financial thing there, even though from another point of view, it's just like sort of the minimum you should get. But you like you can get it in this way where it feels clever. Like it will tick that box, you know, it seems because there'll be some sort of wrangle or some kind of clever way to do it.

I don't know, you know, whatever the details are. They're not really that important, I guess, but not for me, certainly not right now. And I'm not telling you this, you know, basically, it seems you'll be able to satisfy your emotional and financial needs around the money. Yeah, I think the worst thing would be if you have lingering unresolved stuff preventing you from actually drawing a line of sand when you finally come on this journey and move on to the next thing, next space for you. But I think if you feel through all that's important for you, you'll be able to identify things you need to do any unresolved stuff you need to address.

And you'll be able to kind of achieve all that closure, basically. Do what you feel you need to do so then you're able to let it go. And in this, you know, how what other people end up doing right is not about you. You just you'll work out what you need to do and you need to do that. But, you know, it's not a guarantee. I mean, you have to you have to formulate that that transition plan that like a culmination of journey plan for yourself. Right. Hopefully this helps.

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But I also feel quite a lot of fear for you. And I guess there's a lot of fear there for you. You have as well about how you're going to do this. But I believe you can work it out. You know, I really feel for you in this. It must be a really hard time. I mean, just huge the amount of stuff you're going through. It could be that talking to a good therapist could also really help, you know, because, you know, if you find maybe someone through your network is good to talk to or you've heard about someone through friends or whatever who's good to talk to. I mean, that could really help as well, because what you're basically asking for is personal clarity. Right. And so that is independent of the actual topic. And there are techniques or things that help to get that that are independent of the actual subject of the that you want clarity about.

So a therapist, you know, maybe one session, you know, I think it could be something that helps, you know, I'm guessing you feel you don't really have any friends that really understand what you're going through. Right. I mean, sure, maybe you do. But no one who really gets you or really can provide basically what you're looking for there. And that's OK. So I think maybe a therapist could help assist.

And I'm sure it seems overwhelming. There's so much stuff you need to do. And, you know, so I guess you can just lean on your already great execution skills there by just chunking the problem, breaking it down, small steps, stepping through each piece at a time, even though it's not a business thing. It's your personal culmination of journey kind of plan that you need to get through. Right. You need to formulate and then execute that plan for yourself. So you close that chapter and feel satisfied and can move on.

And I'm sure doing all of that seems overwhelming. And it could be that, of course, naturally that, you know, you're maybe distracting yourself, focusing on business tasks to sort of avoid the enormity of this actual personal thing. But obviously, you know, not addressing the personal things you will not feel you got what you want. So obviously, it's it maybe seems sometimes like this is all about the business and things you need to do for that and financial. But there's probably, you know, it's just about the personal perspective that you need to get right in order to close that journey. So that is the side that you need to focus on in order to free yourself. I understand that.

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And I think if you do that ((formulate your personal journey completion plan, addressing all the dark, light, and neutral you need to do to feel complete and move on ~~ the company's "work" may never be complete, but you can feel complete, and that's what matters)), and you also have some sort of ritual--some sort of like sign off final celebration!--where you cherish this stuff and you make the toast and you kind of have that going away party and you do all this stuff and you mark the moment, the culmination of these preparations where you've kind of crystallized all this stuff, this acceptance of the journey that you've actually been on, obviously, as opposed to the first three years and this three, three and a half years, whatever. And this expression of your appreciation and desire to leave things in a good place for the people who are important to you there and for the company. And if you kind of culminated in this kind of big moment, it's going away party, whatever. And then sort of on the other side of that, you have like a ritual for yourself to kind of start that new day, that new life.

I mean, apart from writing down like what things you want to do, bucket list kind of stuff and reconnecting with that, part of your life, you have obviously chosen to maybe, chosen to not invest as much in as you have put in this company. Apart from doing that kind of stuff and everything else I said, I don't know what more you can do. Clearly going through this is gonna be a rollercoaster of emotions that probably take a long time to process fully and you may avoid processing after some time, but it's not gonna be easy to face all of the stuff to go through that. But I think it could be as good as it could be and as comfortable as it could be if you follow your heart about this and align with what you really want.

And that will be empowering because you'll basically be saying goodbye to that earlier version. Not that there's anything wrong with that version, it's just that the way things played out, that didn't work out. And there's nothing wrong with that. Neither with those goals, nor with the fact that it didn't work out. Painful, yes, but nothing wrong, you know? Because it seems what you've done, success or not by the judgment of VCs or not, like you've done something really beautiful. So I just basically see the best path for you is the continuation of that natural desire that you have, a fulfillment of that. And that will be success, I think, as you look back on it and you will know that in your heart that that's success.

So hopefully that was helpful and illuminating for you. Best of luck to you. And thank you for sharing your story here. It was very illuminating and beautiful to kind of see what you've gone through.

Wow...I don't even have any words really. So I'll just say THANK YOU! I will need to read that a coupe more times. But my first question is who are you and how do you know all this and how can I contact you?
Haha, I don't have time to read OP's epic essay, but I love the mood. I think founders who have been through this, myself included, just want you to know you're not alone. Go kick some ass.
you’re welcome! :) just wanna be helpful and help you out. cris@dosycorp.com