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by cmh89 1171 days ago
I (white male) used to try and be active as an ally in regards to DEI. I work for a large public agency. I wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole these days.

This vein of 'antiracism' is poison because it really is absurd. I've personally seen people call 'agendas' and 'goals' white supremacy. Hell, I had to listen to someone talk about how 'clock time' is a tool invented by white supremacists. I've had friends fall down the rabbit whole into this nonsense, where any shortcoming in themselves is just white supremacist culture trying to force things on them. It's really sad.

The most insidious thing is how well it has a built-in defense mechanism. By co-opting terms like 'anti-racist' and defining them under a narrow socio-political view point, it creates a complication for people to talk about their world view. I consider myself 'anti-racist' because I hate racists, but am I 'Anti-racist' in Kemba's viewpoint? No

And stop trying to make Latinx a thing, its not going to happen and is super cringy.

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I don't get Latinx term at all. And hardly ever see it used by native speakers. It's like they're telling Spanish speakers their language is inherently bad because it's gendered. It almost comes off as a "white savior" thing where someone felt like they had to fix it. For context, I grew up bilingual.
It's nice that you finally see it, but it was never logical which raises the question of why anybody ever took it seriously.
Finally see what? DEI is extremely important. It's just also a space that can be dominated by some absolutely dumb people.
DEI is a grift, supported only by people who are ok with the idea of racial discrimination.

The term "antiracist" is laughable too, since by definition it's an ideology that requires you to actively judge people based on the color of their skin. Don't take it from me either, you can see it in the words of Ibram X. Kendi who is perhaps the most well known antiracist grifter:

“The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination.” ~Ibram X. Kendi

That just about sums up DEI and antiracist grifting in general.

>DEI is a grift, supported only by people who are ok with the idea of racial discrimination.

Let me guess, you 'don't see race'?

Racism and sexism exist. They exist in the workplace. DEI is a remedy towards that.

I'm not sure why you are quoting Kendi? Are you under the impression that Kendi invented DEI or owns it?

Like this whole article was written by someone who is a leader in DEI and doesn't agree with Kendi.

If you want to continue this conversation, thats fine, but if you can't understand the difference between the concept of DEI and an individuals views,there really is no point.

  > Let me guess, you 'don't see race'?

  > Racism and sexism exist. They exist in the workplace. DEI is a remedy towards that.
Sure I see race, I just don't see a good reason to judge people differently based on their race. Policies that treat people differently based on the color of their skin (something that is foundational to the entire framework of DEI initiatives) is a bad idea.

It's also completely illogical. White neoliberals control most levers of power in society. I'm not just referring to the Executive branch and the Senate, but the majority of the Boards in the Fortune 500 who are so eager to implement DEI policies, the media (minus the tabloid trash at FOX News) and almost every institute of higher learning (save the rare exceptions like a Hillsdale College which only proves the rule). These people see themselves as saviors of the poor oppressed minority and if you ask them how they feel about poor whites (who happen to make up the majority of poor people in the US), they cringe. They hate nothing more than those dirty hillbillies, and their generational poverty...matters not.

Judging people by the color of their skin is racism, and DEI seeks to institutionalize those racist policies. I do not support institutionalized racism regardless of the target, and I would hope more people begin to see the idiocy in doing so. All it does is breed resentment, divisiveness and racial animosity.

The solution is simple. Help those who need help, do not base any policies on skin color or ethnicity, as it is immutable and will only cause problems. If these people didn't despise the "Trump-country poor white trash" so much, this would be a no-brainer. But alas, here we are.

>Sure I see race, I just don't see a good reason to judge people differently based on their race.

I don't believe you. I don't know if you're lying to me or yourself, but you have racial bias (we all do).

> Policies that treat people differently based on the color of their skin (something that is foundational to the entire framework of DEI initiatives) is a bad idea.

Sure! We already have a socioeconomic system that treats people differently based on the color of the their skin. That's reality. It's not DEI thats the problem, its racists.

>White neoliberals control most levers of power in society.

This true, but I'm guessing you don't really understand that neoliberalism is just another word for conservative. Neoliberals hate DEI.

>Judging people by the color of their skin is racism, and DEI seeks to institutionalize those racist policies. I do not support institutionalized racism regardless of the target, and I would hope more people begin to see the idiocy in doing so. All it does is breed resentment, divisiveness and racial animosity.

LMAO bruh, judging people by the color of their skin was institutionalized 150 before DEI was ever thought of. The United States had FUCKING SLAVES based on the color the skin. Stop being a racist shit. Its been less than 50 years since the federal government *had to outlaw racial segregation because racist ass racists wanted racial segregation*. Quit your horseshit bud. There is still time for you to heal.