[devb]

>> Under which ethical framework is it possible to justify industrial slaughtering of animals?

> The one in which human comfort takes precedence over that of a domesticated species which have been selectively bred over generations to produce meat for consumption. The industrial process is tertiary to the slaughter itself and the economics of meat consumption. You can argue about 'industrialization' of anything -- resource extraction and industrial agriculture at large destroy life on a massive scale.

How is human comfort an "ethical framework"? I'm not sure you understand what ethics are.

[Eisenstein]

I'm willing to learn. Please teach me why 'human comfort' is not a value to which one can prescribe a an ethical weight.

[boston_clone]

So, in short, most people think it’s wrong to permanently end a creatures life because you get some temporary good feelings out of it.

You can prescribe a value, but if temporary sensory pleasures truly outweigh the entire lives of other beings, there may be neurological issues affecting compassion.

[Eisenstein]

'Comfort' means 'lacking hardship', not 'hedonistic pleasure'.

[boston_clone]

Then I would argue that there is no difference in comfort when living a life fueled by dead animals and their excretions versus a life fueled by plants.

See: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19562864/

Most individuals are comfortable admitting that they prefer to not abstain from things like steak and cheese because those things simply taste good. That, to me, is hedonistic pleasure: unnecessary, and an invalid argument for the continued abuse and slaughter of billions of animals around the world.

[Eisenstein]

> That, to me, is hedonistic pleasure

Many people (including me) do not take any pleasure in eating. In fact it is a chore. If I had to conform to a vegan diet I would literally not get enough nutrients for lack of motivation.

Your own perspective is not the only perspective.

[boston_clone]

As an athlete that’s been vegan for nearly 5 years, I promise you it’s not that difficult.

But are you truly convinced that your lack of motivation to properly sustain yourself is worth the needless killing of animals and serious impact on the environment? If you’re here asking about moral frameworks and nitpicking definitions, I don’t think you are.

Make the leap; it’s worth it.