| > My friend, you don't own the reality, But neither do you. Reality exists independently from either of us, but only one of us seems to be paying attention to it. > neither you have right to baselessly accuse anyone of lying. I'm not doing it baselessly, though. All of the things you've said that I've called out as lies, are lies, blatant untruths, and/or have been thoroughly debunked. > Don't pretend like you didn't understand the message. The message that you're not limiting yourself to just one debunked conspiracy theory? Yeah, I got that. > Nobody gives a shit about the Planet Don't project your own cynicism on others. > you may want to look at "climate change" scam preachers - they use private jets No, those are the oil executives, as well as hypocrites who love to pretend to be doing good while only being in it for attention. The actual climate activists don't fly by private jets, and many of them rarely or never fly at all. I'm not exactly on the forefront of climate activism, but even I haven't flown in years. You're only paying attention to the rich and famous, and not to the real people on the ground. You're only paying attention to the hypocrites and think you're pointing out something new when you say they're hypocrites, but everybody knows that already. But because the hypocrites are talking about the environment, you conclude that everybody who talks about the environment must be a hypocrite, and therefore it must be false, but that's not how logic works. There are hypocrites talking about every topic, including yours, but that doesn't make every person on Earth a hypocrite or every topic false. You're clutching at your own selection bias to prove your own strawman. But the only one who falls for that backwards logic is you. > I suggest to have a look what "climate change" preachers were preaching and predicting 10-15-20-30 years ago and how many of those predictions have happened. I'll save you time - it's zero. But don't trust me, do you own research. I'm sure you've cherry-picked your own selection of outrageous claims to prove your point, but if you actually did your research honestly, you'd see it's not zero. Many predictions have come true. A small selection: * Temperatures are rising. This has been quite thoroughly documented. I think the past 8 years are the 8 hottest years on record. Most of the hottest years on record have happened since 1998. * Glaciers are melting. Lots of glaciers are significantly smaller or have disappeared completely. * Sea ice is melting. North Pole ice is smaller and smaller every year. * Weather is getting less stable. Some areas get unprecedented floods, others extreme draughts. Blizzards in Texas, balmy weather on the North Pole. Of course there have been alarmists who turned the thing into a caricature, but those have always been called out as nonsense. > Nothing is "destabilising" it, this Planet allegedly existed over 4.6bn years, and likely will exist more. Read more carefully. The climate is destabilising. Not the planet. Nobody is saying the planet will explode. That's even beyond the more usual nonsense caricatures. |
Unlike you, I never claimed it.
> All of the things you've said that I've called out as lies, are lies, blatant untruths, and/or have been thoroughly debunked.
As usual, there is no proof of "debunking".
> No, those are the oil executives, as well as hypocrites who love to pretend to be doing good while only being in it for attention
Normally I should have stopped long ago as I normally don't entertain religious fanatics. "Climate change" scam advocates are perfectly fitting your description of hypocrites as to best of my knowledge none of them follows their preachings. It's all entertainment for dumb crowd.
> You're only paying attention to the rich and famous, and not to the real people on the ground.
I am talking about "climate change" preachers. They don't follow what they preach. Certainly some people do follow those preachings, but I have nothing more than pity for them.
> I'm sure you've cherry-picked your own selection of outrageous claims to prove your point, but if you actually did your research honestly, you'd see it's not zero. Many predictions have come true.
I like how you are trying to project your ways of discussion on me :) Says a lot. Just a reminder - I didn't "cherry pick" anything for anyone who can read and encouraged doing their own research. Sapienti sat.
> A small selection:
Your selection is "water is wet". It's not a selection.
> Weather is getting less stable. Some areas get unprecedented floods, others extreme draughts
And this one is outright lie. There is no data supporting it. Droughts, floods happened there over course of history. Just because ww have internet now and can read about it and see photos on Instagram doesn't make it any "less stable". Although I think you know it and just trying to deceive to push your narrative.
> The climate is destabilising
I would ask what this nonsensical sentence means but sorry I have no time to prolong this discussion. Wishing you all the best