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by atleastoptimal 1200 days ago
Which is a good thing. So glad all that GPU compute is being used on cool stuff rather than running SHA-256 18 quintillion times
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Definitely a good thing but FYI it hasn't been profitable/feasible to mine bitcoin (SHA-256) on GPU for many many years as ASIC based miners have completely taken over. I've talked about it plenty on HN but any way you slice it crypto is an unbelievable waste of resources in every possible way regardless.

What really (finally) more or less killed GPU mining was the Ethereum move to PoS (Proof of Stake).

They can’t both be cool?
Nothing cool in throwing away lots of resources for no reason. In fact there's substantial heating involved.
One is a contest to waste the most resources, one has potential to actually have useful results
Why do you think Bitcoin does not have useful results?
Bitcoin has a use, but there are other options for consensus algorithms that don't waste as much energy as the citizens of a medium sized country and fill the same user case (and other expanded use cases). Why not just do that?
Strictly speaking, the comment you're replying to doesn't say which of the two is a contest to waste resources and which has potential to have useful results.
I assumed that this was doubling down on atleastoptimal’s view.
Can you cite an useful result? I can't but I don't think that some people getting richer is useful.
https://www.elliptic.co/blog/live-updates-millions-in-crypto...

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/23/ukrainian-flees-to-poland-wi...

In general, the purpose of Bitcoin is not to get rich, but to have a currency that is universally accepted and not tied to a political party’s fiscal decisions.

In general, so is the Federal Reserve.
Sure: I can buy servers and domains anonymously and buy drugs online, which are illegal in my country.
Well, I agree with you there.
Only if you really like big numbers for the sake of them. Otherwise, one is just straight up snake oil[0], and the other… is kinda hard to tell yet, because while I'm really impressed, I don't know if it's {a toy, a tool, the first sign of a major transformation}.

[0] did you know the original snake oils contains more omega-3 and therefore improves cognitive function when compared to lard? I did not. But you can get omega-3 elsewhere, and the people who made the term synonymous with fraud didn't use those snakes, so…

> running SHA-256 18 quintillion times

or games. People could have been studying or doing something more important than wasting time and energy. I get that it is entertainment, but so are board games and that don't require mining rare earth minerals or putting pressure on the grid as you can always play board games with candles on.

Or TV shows or movies. People could have been studying or doing something more important than wasting time and energy.

Or going outside. People could have been studying or doing something more important than wasting time and energy.

Or not being locked in the education facility. People could have been studying or doing something more important than wasting time and energy.

I'm of two minds on this. I'm not a gamer so part of me thinks gaming is a complete waste of time and resources. Then again, the same could be said about almost any hobby/pastime.

That said, gaming is what gave us GPUs (which have developed for gaming over the course of decades) so that we can now utilize them for more interesting and "productive" applications.

So, for me, in the end I'm happy the PC gaming industry and user base has been pushing GPU capability.

Be careful. The gaming industry has successfully conditioned people into believing they need a $1500 GPU with the TDP of a microwave so they can play the next unfinished-at-release AAA title.
Monopoly by candlelight, just the future I had always envisioned.
Why are you wasting candlestick on playing games? It's such a waste! Don't you know bees died to make that candle?

The most ecologically friendly thing you can do is go to sleep. If you want to play games, do it while the sun is out!

(/s, just in case)

If more people played Monopoly, they would have realised the Western economy is at the stage were a few players bought all properties and utilities.