[NhanH]

I can write a lot of words saying why this blogspam is not backed by actual fact. But a simple demonstration is in order: please go to bing chat and search for "West Ham United latest result". The normal search (either Bing or Google) will give you the failfest against Brighton. While Bing Chat will confidently say "I’m sorry, but I couldn’t find any information about the latest game result for West Ham United". Here is the screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/NOCn9ea .

I like LLM as much as the next guy on HN, but whatever this blogspam is describing is not backed by reality.

[2OEH8eoCRo0]

It seems that we are being intentionally dense in this area. I don't think anybody is arguing that these tools, in their current form, are a threat. But Bing or ChatGPT are the shittiest version that's useful. It doesn't have to be perfect and useful for everything. The new Bing isn't even widely released yet. This will only get better with time.

They are up against traditional web search which has about a 30 year head start. There is a dissonance where some seem to think these aren't useful yet I see people getting a ton of use out of them.

[knaik94]

I had a very different experience searching for the same information. It gave me the answer all three times, the first two were on "balanced" and the third was on "precise". Initially I asked it with some context, the same words I would use to do the search myself. It seems pointless to search something I wouldn't do myself. I refreshed and tried your exact query and got a more detailed answer, refreshed and tried again and got the correct complete answer using "precise". The third time included the same links as the second time, I just didn't include them in the picture.

If you prompt it with a better query, you'll get a better response.

The second search it went into much more detail, although I refreshed, it seems like searching the same thing again forces a regenerated longer response.

https://i.imgur.com/CnjCsa6.png

https://i.imgur.com/0ZoapDK.png

https://i.imgur.com/7KH7zIv.png

[NhanH]

It does work for me now. It didn’t an hour ago when I posted, and I am certain it didn’t work each day since the Brighton match on Saturday (I was curious when it didn’t work, and intended to track it to see when it will)

Edit: I tried a different query with “laker latest result”. It answers that the latest game was on March 8th (tomorrow), but it couldn’t find the result. So you might want to try it instead

[knaik94]

I am similarly having a different experience than you. It gives me Lakers results and also correctly says the correct upcoming game vs Memphis Grizzlies today. I searched "laker latest result" and "lakers upcoming". I apologizie if there's a different team/game you're referring to, because I don't know it. And like I said, I would normally search using many more keywords. It also corrected me when I queried "laker" with a different sport like football. All on "concise", I wouldn't be surprised if posting the query here on HN has enough people trying it that Bing learns by the time others get around to searching it. I know this is still anecdata.

[amelius]

And your comment is backed only by anecdotal evidence, just saying.

[NhanH]

I am not the one making extraordinary speculation. And I am not countering an argument backed with scientific finding, data or statistics, I am disputing one being backed with air. Both the priori (of things staying mostly the same where they were) and evidence (my single anecdote) is on my side, so far.