[oefrha]

Well I still have a non-signed-in local account on my Windows 11 Pro install, but of course every time I boot up I get a full screen “finish setting up your device” before I’m allowed to sign in. The only options are “continue” and “remind me in three days”. Better yet, I once clicked on continue by accident and the computer hang for three minutes before I shut it down. Now I only reboot when the machine BSODs, which (I kid you not) happens every three to five days.

Thankfully I only use it for some cross-platform testing and occasional gaming.

[longlostship]

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/turn-off-notific...

You're welcome.

[paavope]

> Under Notifications, clear the checkbox next to Suggest ways I can finish setting up my device to get the most out of Windows.

Not a Windows user, but that wording of the setting is making me irrationally angry

[hyperdimension]

That, and the opposite of 'continue' (making this permanent change) being 'remind me in three days' or Google's 'not now' comes with this nasty implication that we're all just foolish users who don't know what's best for us and that we'll eventually come around to what we really want to do.

It really, really irks me.

[girvo]

Thank you! This has been driving me nuts on my Win 10 install.

[flakeoil]

I have the same issue with "finish setting up your device". I don't understand how this can be legal. In the early 2000 MS got fined for bundling IE as default, but I seriously think they have even more evil patterns now baked into Windows and all it's entangling into 365 etc.

[trinsic2]

I was thinking the same thing. I heard somewhere that nobody wants to prosecute Microsoft now because their systems are so tied into our our financial and political infrastructure that nobody wants to rock the boat. I also heard that Microsoft uses this as leverage against business that want to speak out against the dark patterns and deceptive practices Microsoft is involved in.

"The New Goliaths: How Corporations Use Software to Dominate Industries, Kill Innovation, and Undermine Regulation"[1] looks like a good book on the subject that I plan on reading.

[1]: https://www.amazon.com/New-Goliaths-Corporations-Industries-...

[nazgulsenpai]

I absolutely detest Microsoft, but I think that same argument could be made for most of big tech but especially Google, Microsoft, Apple, Oracle or even the link you provided there selling the book, Amazon.

[trinsic2]

Yes thats true. I think Microsoft is in a special position though because the have the dominate share in the business market. I'm not too interested in focusing on the "Other the bad apples to" as it distracts from the actual problem: "Dark Patterns" and our allowing of them as a society. I take the approach that external manifestations come from our inner states of being from every human on the planet. We allow these things to happen because of where we are at as humans in society, at this current state of our evolution. Maybe it will change someday, maybe not.