[johnklos]

Your efforts are commendable, but you're not correct about Spamhaus and being forced to use Google / Apple.

For starters, nobody is ever forced to use a web browser with email. I'm OK with the fact that pine will parse some of the HTML so I don't see all the silly tags in most email, but it will never follow a link, at least.

If your IPv4 and/or IPv6 is on a Spamhaus list and you can't get it / them removed, likely because you're in a pool of residential IPs, and likely in part because you can't control the PTR, then you can always smarthost through any reasonable provider.

I've been self-hosting email for a quarter of a century, and I'd never blame anyone else if I tried to send email from a residential pool of IPs and it didn't work.

Not sure what this has to do with setting up a nice little ARM server, besides your observation that the ARM architecture is licensed, but here we are :)

[sylware]

If you want to make spamhaus remove your IP from their block list, you must engage in a chat working only with google/apple javascript browsers (I am a noscript/basic (x)html user). Where is the IRC server? They provide an email for IP block list removal... which is blocking smtp servers (not even a grey listing) using their block lists.

Those guys are bad, really bad. Hope they grow up and improve.

Yeah, once I have finished or I am more advanced on other projects, I'll get rid of those pesky arm64 with that toxic IP (that said it is the same for x86_64). I'll re-use first my C code as a stepping stone to perform the jump. One more step towards real digital freedom.

[johnklos]

I wrote what I wrote in an unclear way:

"you're not correct about Spamhaus and being forced to use Google / Apple"

What I meant is that you weren't necessarily correct about Spamhaus, nor correct about being forced to use Google / Apple (which I thought was a reference to the fact that 98% of the world use Google's browsers and Gmail and/or Apple's Safari and/or Mail).

I see now you were referring to using a mainstream browser to communicate with Spamhaus. Yes, that's uncool. And yes, I wholly agree that the email address to request unblocking should not be filtered like it is.

Sometimes we worry so much about the symptom that we forget about the problem. Perhaps it'd be worthwhile to just ask someone else to forward an email requesting removal to Spamhaus' removal address.

[sylware]

Come on, you know that the whole point is to be independent from gatekeepers, and walking towards real digital freedom.

Spamhaus is doing a really bad job. They just need to grow up and improve.

[johnklos]

Of course, but giving up and just accepting the fact that you're on their blocklists does more harm to you in the long run, in my opinion, than just asking someone to forward an email. If that's what you want, then of course that's entirely up to you, but considering the complete lack of action network admins take when you report abuse and illegal activity, you can hardly blame people for taking the easy way out and just blocking all the low hanging fruit.