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by lappet 1223 days ago
While this is a major misstep in my opinion, I think there is a major imbalance in reputable media in the world. We need more non-Western sources of media that are respected. People are realizing, as in this case, that Western countries have skeletons in their cupboards too, and will stop respecting Western media establishments. Imagine China sanctioning the US for treating black people with impunity.
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This is an awful take. Western media covers scandals in western governments regularly. You could also always check out Al Jazeera, if you know what their slant is on middle east coverage.

Also comparing anything going on in the US for the last 60 years to the genocide happening in Xinjiang is ridiculous on its face.

>Also comparing anything going on in the US for the last 60 years to the genocide happening in Xinjiang is ridiculous on its face.

Indeed - the fact that black people are being killed and incarcerated for their skin colour in USA is well documented, whereas the “genocide” is mostly just a propaganda tool.

> Indeed - the fact that black people are being killed and incarcerated for their skin colour in USA is well documented

This is a total misreading of the situation. I'm not here to argue that the US has a perfect human rights record, but its an active topic of debate and reform are happening. Moreover, the idea that people are being incarcerated solely for their skin color is not "well documented" and strains credulity as a claim. If the claim is sentencing disparity, then sure there is an issue there, but your claim is wholly false.

Xinjiang is a completely different situation. We know factually that millions of people have gone through reeducation camps, the CCP is trying to eradicate the Uyghur language and force Han culture on the Uyghurs. You can see these modern day concentration camps from satellite imagery. There are well documented cases of forced sterilization. There is no legal process for appeals if a Uyghur is arrested, and we know many of the arrests are for religious practice. The world saw what the CCP did in Tibet, and we're seeing an even more grotesque version in Xinjiang.

>reform are happening

Same as in China.

>factually that millions

The highest estimates, by Zenz, only go up to a million. And it’s not factual at all.

>eradicate the Uighur language

I suppose that’s why you have official Chinese banknotes with Uighur text on them, and that’s why Uighur kids are being taught their native language in schools.

>well documented cases of forced sterilization

We have the same in USA.

Generally speaking: you’re repeating rhetorics (propaganda) instead of focusing on verifiable information.

> Same as in China.

What reforms are happening in China> They're still pouring people into camps.

> The highest estimates, by Zenz, only go up to a million. And it’s not factual at all.

The zenz estimate for 2020 is 1.8 million, but estimates are as high as 3 million over several years plus half a million in special boarding schools. A total of 3 million Uighurs is fully 1/3 of their population in Xianjang.

> We have the same in USA.

No, there it literally no forced sterilization in US prisons. You're making that up.

Everyone but China agrees that they are committing genocide, this isn't propaganda.

> I suppose that’s why you have official Chinese banknotes with Uighur text on them, and that’s why Uighur kids are being taught their native language in schools.

There seems to be a lot of evidence to the contrary[1][2]

[1] https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c...

[2] https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c...

[3] https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c...