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by trasz3 1223 days ago
>Also comparing anything going on in the US for the last 60 years to the genocide happening in Xinjiang is ridiculous on its face.

Indeed - the fact that black people are being killed and incarcerated for their skin colour in USA is well documented, whereas the “genocide” is mostly just a propaganda tool.
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ch4s3 1223 days ago
> Indeed - the fact that black people are being killed and incarcerated for their skin colour in USA is well documented

This is a total misreading of the situation. I'm not here to argue that the US has a perfect human rights record, but its an active topic of debate and reform are happening. Moreover, the idea that people are being incarcerated solely for their skin color is not "well documented" and strains credulity as a claim. If the claim is sentencing disparity, then sure there is an issue there, but your claim is wholly false.

Xinjiang is a completely different situation. We know factually that millions of people have gone through reeducation camps, the CCP is trying to eradicate the Uyghur language and force Han culture on the Uyghurs. You can see these modern day concentration camps from satellite imagery. There are well documented cases of forced sterilization. There is no legal process for appeals if a Uyghur is arrested, and we know many of the arrests are for religious practice. The world saw what the CCP did in Tibet, and we're seeing an even more grotesque version in Xinjiang.

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trasz3 1223 days ago
>reform are happening

Same as in China.

>factually that millions

The highest estimates, by Zenz, only go up to a million. And it’s not factual at all.

>eradicate the Uighur language

I suppose that’s why you have official Chinese banknotes with Uighur text on them, and that’s why Uighur kids are being taught their native language in schools.

>well documented cases of forced sterilization

We have the same in USA.

Generally speaking: you’re repeating rhetorics (propaganda) instead of focusing on verifiable information.

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ch4s3 1222 days ago
> Same as in China.

What reforms are happening in China> They're still pouring people into camps.

> The highest estimates, by Zenz, only go up to a million. And it’s not factual at all.

The zenz estimate for 2020 is 1.8 million, but estimates are as high as 3 million over several years plus half a million in special boarding schools. A total of 3 million Uighurs is fully 1/3 of their population in Xianjang.

> We have the same in USA.

No, there it literally no forced sterilization in US prisons. You're making that up.

Everyone but China agrees that they are committing genocide, this isn't propaganda.

> I suppose that’s why you have official Chinese banknotes with Uighur text on them, and that’s why Uighur kids are being taught their native language in schools.

There seems to be a lot of evidence to the contrary[1][2]

[1] https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c...

[2] https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c...

[3] https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c...

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