[boomboomsubban]

>Sincere question btw, as far as I know they’re “non-profit” but they get a good bit of hate

They sort of aren't a nonprofit anymore. Too much of their money came from the search deal as opposed to donations so they had to spin off the Mozilla Corporation which is completely owned by the nonprofit Mozilla Foundation. The foundation is what does research like this, and they're funded by donations and a certain percent of the corporations profits.

As for "drowning in money," they make ~$500 million a year. Many people think they waste it by doing things like paying their CEO a few million or being located in San Francisco.

[krono]

You must agree this is completely unjustifiable:

> In 2018 she received a total of $2,458,350 in compensation from Mozilla, which represents a 400% payrise since 2008. On the same period, Firefox marketshare was down 85%.

> In 2020, after returning to the position of CEO, her salary had risen to over $3 million. In the same year the Mozilla Corporation laid off approximately 250 employees due to shrinking revenues. Baker blamed this on the Coronavirus pandemic.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_Baker#Negative_salary...

[boomboomsubban]

Not particularly. From 2008 to 2018, their revenue grew more than 400%, and much of that was due to executives doing a better job selling the search deal. Then getting more money when you become CEO seems normal.

[krono]

Revenue is about the only thing that might have improved. The meat and potatoes certainly haven't.

Edit: was not my intention to make this sound so unfair to the moz employees and contributors - it's all on management

[boomboomsubban]

Revenue's pretty damn important, without the increase Firefox likely would have been dead years ago.

The management has hardly been flawless, but I don't know how to compete with opponents that have practically unlimited budgets with no expectation of being independently profitable, first IE then Chrome. Any move that isn't a grand slam will be viewed as a failure.

[krono]

Nicely worded. I suppose it's not as much that I believe she's doing a particularly bad job, but more that she's been moving Mozilla too far into the direction opposite from where I would have liked it to go, and where I believe it belongs.

I find her salary increases and their timing both unconscionable and excessive regardless.

[boomboomsubban]

If someone asked you "hey we want to promote you to permanent CEO. It'll be more work, you'll be forced to make unpopular decisions that will lead to rampant criticism, and we'll cut your salary" would you accept?