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by krono 1224 days ago
You must agree this is completely unjustifiable:

> In 2018 she received a total of $2,458,350 in compensation from Mozilla, which represents a 400% payrise since 2008. On the same period, Firefox marketshare was down 85%.

> In 2020, after returning to the position of CEO, her salary had risen to over $3 million. In the same year the Mozilla Corporation laid off approximately 250 employees due to shrinking revenues. Baker blamed this on the Coronavirus pandemic.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchell_Baker#Negative_salary...

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Not particularly. From 2008 to 2018, their revenue grew more than 400%, and much of that was due to executives doing a better job selling the search deal. Then getting more money when you become CEO seems normal.
Revenue is about the only thing that might have improved. The meat and potatoes certainly haven't.

Edit: was not my intention to make this sound so unfair to the moz employees and contributors - it's all on management

Revenue's pretty damn important, without the increase Firefox likely would have been dead years ago.

The management has hardly been flawless, but I don't know how to compete with opponents that have practically unlimited budgets with no expectation of being independently profitable, first IE then Chrome. Any move that isn't a grand slam will be viewed as a failure.

Nicely worded. I suppose it's not as much that I believe she's doing a particularly bad job, but more that she's been moving Mozilla too far into the direction opposite from where I would have liked it to go, and where I believe it belongs.

I find her salary increases and their timing both unconscionable and excessive regardless.

If someone asked you "hey we want to promote you to permanent CEO. It'll be more work, you'll be forced to make unpopular decisions that will lead to rampant criticism, and we'll cut your salary" would you accept?
That's not what happened here at all though. She has been a major controlling and accountable factor throughout both Mozilla entities' existence, except whenever those controversial or risky decisions were going to be executed she has repeatedly ensured there was someone else to take the accountability part - only to take it back later during better times.

  2003 Mozilla Foundation was founded
       - Mozilla Foundation President
       - Mozilla Foundation Chairperson
  2005 Mozilla Corporation was founded
       - Mozilla Foundation President
       - Mozilla Foundation Chairperson
       - Mozilla Corporation CEO
       - Mozilla Corporation Executive Chairperson
  2007 Firefox/Google privacy controversy[0]
  2008 She stepped down from several roles
       - Mozilla Foundation Chairperson
       - Mozilla Corporation Executive Chairperson
  2014 Half the board resigned in protest of newly elected CEO[1]
  2019 Settled out of court with Yahoo on the issue of Mozilla's nasty opportunistic rug-pull stunt[1]
  2018 Market share had dropped by 85% since 2008
       She received a 400% salary rise for her role as Foundation Chair
       - Mozilla Foundation Chairperson
       - Mozilla Corporation Executive Chairperson
  2020 She stepped back in as Mozilla Corporation CEO
       - Mozilla Foundation Chairperson
       - Mozilla Corporation CEO
       - Mozilla Corporation Executive Chairperson
And since then they've become even more dependent on search engine donations than ever before. Quite risky considering Google's current predicament.

[0]: https://web.archive.org/web/20070121123429/http://www.platin...

[1]: https://web.archive.org/web/20140330185556/http://blogs.wsj....

[2]: https://web.archive.org/web/20221130031213/https://www.compu...