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by denton-scratch 1227 days ago
> safe for children

Ah, it's filtered.

Someone decides what "children" means. Someone decides what "safe" means.

There are people who think that not just under-16s, but almost everyone is incapable of making adult decisions. And different (responsible, informed) adults may come to different conclusions about what is and isn't safe.

Curated DNS may suit some people, but I appreciate having access to the real internet.

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They offer three families of resolvers: the default one which as far as I understand isn't curated at all, the "zero" one which is curated against "bad actors", and the "kids" one which you speak of.
> They offer three families of resolvers

Yeah, I see. On first reading, that wasn't obvious to me.

But a DNS provider that can filter, and that also purports to be something to do with the EU, presumably imposes EU-mandated filtering, whichever server you choose. Or it will, as soon as it's ordered to.

I don't get why people use 3rd-party resolvers. It's not hard to set up an Unbound recursor.

Think about how many people want to at least keep their children safe online and do not have an easy means to do so.

This helps make simple solutions accessible to a wider audience.

Sure you may not care if your children are watching porn at age 6 .. some may prefer to parent differently.

Giving people an option is not a bad thing, and it does not purport to be anything to do with the EU itself, just built for the EU market.

If you're the type of person to think Federal Express is part of the US government, that's partially on you.

IMHO the only solution for real safety for children on internet are the parents that navigate with the child and education, any other solution is only a patch that give false security. And, above all, you're giving to other people the right to choose what is good or bad for your children. Not my way.
Golly - there's a few strawmen there.

* My children are in their thirties, and don't live with me. I live on my own now, but I was a good parent.

* I didn't suggest that using this service should be banned; I just asked why people don't run their own recursive DNS.

* And I have no idea where you got the notion that I confuse Fedex with the US government.

"presumably imposes EU-mandated filtering"

Source?

It's in France. It operates under French and EU jurisdiction.

[Edit] So EU mandates will be enforced. Is that fact what you want a source for?

france is like the hub of content anarchism dude. culture matters, its not all about laws.
He’s been triggered. He either didn’t read the article or doesn’t understand it.
It is within .eu domain. Nothing to do with the European Union.
.eu domains are only available to any person or entity that reside within the European Union. As such, any European Union legislation will apply.
There are separate dns servers, the one for kids is different from the one mentioned on the landing page.
Nonsense.

You can choose which version to use, same with Cloudflare’s 3 different DNS choices.

And much like Cloudflare the lack of accountability and clumsy blocking schema of the "child safe" one is dangerous and worthy of criticism.
If it's not for you it's not for you.

I always wonder about people who go to a French restaurant and want Pizza.

When I first encountered pizza, I was a kid, and it was in France. For quite a few years, I thought pizza was a French thing.

I'm not sure what your point is. I read the article because I'm interested in DNS; not because I'm researching 3rd-party resolvers. I run my own Unbound recursor.

Probably the best pizza I’ve ever had in my life was at a French restaurant in Vientiane, Laos.

So, yeah…

"Migas? A Mexican restaurant in Beirut? I'm impressed."
> I always wonder about people who go to a French restaurant and want Pizza.

To be fair, this is more like trying to lookup contact information for the local pizzeria, and realizing to your surprise that the phone book you've picked up has directed you to the French restaurant instead.

Well sure, if you picked up the phonebook called "Pizza to French Cuisine" ....
I’m now 35 and incapable of making adult decisions. Does that count?
I think there may be a 5-year window, perhaps from 60-65, when you are old enough but not too old. Older, and you're child-like because you're senile; younger, and you're naive, reckless, and under-informed.