[rhaway84773]

The U.S. hasn’t done anything to any country even close to being the equivalent of what China did in Tibet. Or is doing to the Uighurs in its own country.

And that’s a China that has had economic and military power at an international level for less than 2 decades.

All that being said, there’s no real point in comparing which one has been historically worse to determine who is destabilizing the world more in any given situation.

And while the political rhetoric in the US could be better, Chinese actions worldwide, are far more destabilizing than anything the US has been doing, especially since it got out of Iraq.

Interestingly, what’s happening in Pakistan (and Afghanistan) since the U.S. left Afghanistan shows that even what one could reasonably saw were clear negative actions by the U.S., such as its occupation of Afghanistan, may not have been as clear in hindsight.

[jemmyw]

Well arguably what America / Europe did to the native Americans was worse. And it's a shame in these current times when America could do with being the stand up ethical superpower there hasn't been a nationwide recognition of that.

This is a partial and partly formed view of mine. I don't have great knowledge of the history.

[Dalewyn]

Native American Indians today enjoy sovereignty within their tribal lands as a consequence of the US doing horrible acts upon them, they are countries unto themselves in modern terms with the US representing them internationally in their stead for brevity's sake. Culturally they are revered as courageous natives of the land who deserve our respect (see: AH-64 Apache, et al.).

So please, educate yourself before making a fool of yourself.

[defrost]

Native American Communities themselves do not seem to recognise the benefits of the US naming a helicopter after them as recompense for taking lands and breaking treaties.

https://www.powwows.com/issues-and-problems-facing-native-am...

They're not seeing the benefits of having "their lands" when those lands are still being exploited for resources by outsiders.

https://www.afr.com/companies/mining/culture-war-looms-for-r...

I'm not seeing much education or awreness in your comment.

[ashwagary]

US states actively ban history surrounding these topics to avoid hurting the feelings of the dominant society's offspring. You have to forgive some of the ignorance of centuries long domestic issues.

[jemmyw]

> So please, educate yourself before making a fool of yourself.

As I finished my comment, it was a partly formed view and I don't have good knowledge of history. I was hoping for some more informed replies. I was hoping they'd come without insults too, so cheers for the disappointment.

[deadlydose]

Making a bold and uninformed claim and following it with an admission of ignorance doesn't absolve you of having made a bold and uninformed claim.

> I was hoping for some more informed replies.

You didn't ask for any.

[jemmyw]

It's not a bold claim to point to the treatment of indeginous people as bad and similar to what is happening in China. Nor is it ignorant to say it's something America or the rest of the new world is absolved of. Do I think that makes it ok for China or they shouldn't be called out and more about it? No, I don't think that at all. But it makes it a harder argument.

[Dalewyn]

Another way to consider this is that America admits that Native American Indians were once wronged, made amends, and now pays respects to their storied histories and cultures and helps them find and secure their own places within the country and the world.

China, on the other hand, gives precisely zero fucks what wrongs happen to the peoples within its borders. All must serve the state and only the state, at the point of a gun.

I once again ask that you educate yourself before you make a fool of yourself. Basic knowledge and understanding are prerequisites to participating in worthwhile discussions. If you took that request as an insult, then that is your loss and certainly not my problem.