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by jemmyw 1237 days ago
Well arguably what America / Europe did to the native Americans was worse. And it's a shame in these current times when America could do with being the stand up ethical superpower there hasn't been a nationwide recognition of that.

This is a partial and partly formed view of mine. I don't have great knowledge of the history.
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Dalewyn 1236 days ago
Native American Indians today enjoy sovereignty within their tribal lands as a consequence of the US doing horrible acts upon them, they are countries unto themselves in modern terms with the US representing them internationally in their stead for brevity's sake. Culturally they are revered as courageous natives of the land who deserve our respect (see: AH-64 Apache, et al.).

So please, educate yourself before making a fool of yourself.

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defrost 1236 days ago
Native American Communities themselves do not seem to recognise the benefits of the US naming a helicopter after them as recompense for taking lands and breaking treaties.

https://www.powwows.com/issues-and-problems-facing-native-am...

They're not seeing the benefits of having "their lands" when those lands are still being exploited for resources by outsiders.

https://www.afr.com/companies/mining/culture-war-looms-for-r...

I'm not seeing much education or awreness in your comment.

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ashwagary 1236 days ago
US states actively ban history surrounding these topics to avoid hurting the feelings of the dominant society's offspring. You have to forgive some of the ignorance of centuries long domestic issues.
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jemmyw 1236 days ago
> So please, educate yourself before making a fool of yourself.

As I finished my comment, it was a partly formed view and I don't have good knowledge of history. I was hoping for some more informed replies. I was hoping they'd come without insults too, so cheers for the disappointment.

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deadlydose 1236 days ago
Making a bold and uninformed claim and following it with an admission of ignorance doesn't absolve you of having made a bold and uninformed claim.

> I was hoping for some more informed replies.

You didn't ask for any.

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jemmyw 1236 days ago
It's not a bold claim to point to the treatment of indeginous people as bad and similar to what is happening in China. Nor is it ignorant to say it's something America or the rest of the new world is absolved of. Do I think that makes it ok for China or they shouldn't be called out and more about it? No, I don't think that at all. But it makes it a harder argument.
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Dalewyn 1236 days ago
Another way to consider this is that America admits that Native American Indians were once wronged, made amends, and now pays respects to their storied histories and cultures and helps them find and secure their own places within the country and the world.

China, on the other hand, gives precisely zero fucks what wrongs happen to the peoples within its borders. All must serve the state and only the state, at the point of a gun.

I once again ask that you educate yourself before you make a fool of yourself. Basic knowledge and understanding are prerequisites to participating in worthwhile discussions. If you took that request as an insult, then that is your loss and certainly not my problem.

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