[photochemsyn]

An alternative opinion with a logical underpinning:

1) Chili is a dish most closely associated with the southwestern United States.

2) Among the most important cultivars of that region, dating back thousands of years, are: peppers, maize, squash, beans. This combination provides a complete mix of nutrients for a healthy diet.

3) Therefore, adding all those ingredients to chili in some form or other is entirely justifiable, as well as being historically accurate.

Meat, on the other hand, is entirely optional.

[cosinetau]

Can you help me corroborate your theory of historically accurate chili? I can not find any document supporting your "thousands of years" claim.

It not hard to believe that native people dumped some of the earth's best vegetables into a pot and let them steep, but, I can not find _any_ support for your claim.

I genuinely hope you enjoy your historically-accurate, bean-laden chili, but now I am suspicious; I know that LLMs can not really enjoy the richness in any chili.

[VLM]

This is the problem in a nutshell, do you define a "good recipe" as one that is historically accurate, that tastes good, or that follows various belief systems like not culturally appropriating or only culturally appropriating when you do a good job of it?

Meanwhile the ad sales platform is going to define a "good recipe" as one that results in high click thru on ads they have contracts for.

And add a side dish of the people doing the rating of how good the page is, specifically have zero skill in the field and are going to have intense normie middle of the road bias because on average they don't know anything.

If you magically crowdsourced the averaged opinion of average folks about the General Theory of Relativity in 1900, would that result be useful and have beaten Einstein before he wrote it in 1915? The AI people think so; especially the ones who's paychecks depend on it; personally I have my doubts.

[cosinetau]

Thanks for writing in VLM.

No one in this comment thread made any claim of any recipe or particular chili recipe being "good".

Your summary is confusing to me, because whatever the "normie middle of the road" idea we are supposedly now discussing does not have anything to do with what I said or had asked questions about.

[tflinton]

Most Texas Red Chili's originate from a dish called Chile Colorado with deep roots in mexican cuisine. Chile Colorado is served with tortillas and frijoles (pinto beans), and usually some pickled veggies. At some point its not impossible to believe someone went "To hell with it" and just added all of the ingredients to the pot.. but you are correct, there's really no good clear history of how Chili with meat became Chili with beans.

Fun fact, chile colorado translated just means colored red chile.

Edit: I fixed some typos.