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by amachefe 1266 days ago
From the comments below, I am fast coming to conclusions that it is impossible to get a rational clear headed discussion on Elon in HN
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I've seen this for months now. We have a highly upvoted tweet that is one sided with very little actual discussion as to why this may be the case. Instead it's wild speculation about this being malicious, that Elon is Hitler, and he is micromanaging toilet paper supply. Fake news is treated as fact around here as long as it fits the space man bad narrative.

Easy rebuttals here:

1. This doesn't violate the WARN act. This only requires 60 days notice, which Elon provided by continuing to pay everyone for 90 days.

2. There is no "severance letter" to receive. The severence is three months pay.

3. Twitter user didn't clarify if he was an employee or contractor. Doesn't clarify whether he was fired or laid off. Doesn't clarify whether if he was laid off if it was part of the mass-layoff or a different smaller round that didn't require 60 day notice. Didn't clarify whether he continued to be paid at all after he left.

My typical disclaimer: I am not pro-Elon. I am anti-bullshit. There is a lot of bullshit happening here. I would love to be proven wrong and have clarification around the massive amount of missing information here. I am very pro-worker and absolutely want these people to get paid.

> 1. This doesn't violate the WARN act. This only requires 60 days notice, which Elon provided by continuing to pay everyone for 90 days.

> 2. There is no "severance letter" to receive. The severence is three months pay.

Are you implying that by providing severance pay of 90 days he is both complying with the 60 day limit and the severance pay? He is legally required to provide back-pay for those 60 days, the severance is independent of the back-pay. So he'd have to pay for 150 days in total.

> Are you implying that by providing severance pay of 90 days he is both complying with the 60 day limit and the severance pay?

Yes

> He is legally required to provide back-pay for those 60 days

I agree, but I don't think severance is necessarily independent from pedantic point of view, and technically severance doesn't "have" to be anything - it's whatever he wants it to be as long as it's at least the 60 days. In this instance I believe he provided 90 day severance both to fulfill his legal obligation and also threw on another month for goodwill.

Do you have any legal resources that describe this as a possibility? I see no overlap between back-pay and severance, but I might be overlooking something. Though I hope you're not just arguing from a "technical" and "pedantic" point of view, since that doesn't have any meaning in the legal world.