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by notimpotent 1271 days ago
And what does one do when you meet in person and no longer have the witty AI to carry your conversation?
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You...talk.

Do you think that none of the people using ChatGPT to get dates knows how to speak?

I'm a long time tinder user. I've many girls. The most exhausting part is trying to be funny to catch the girl's attention in the first few messages. Why do I have to do that anyway fake part of the entertainment for the ladies? I'd let a bot do it and I'll entertain them when we meet in person. Saves my time and I don't see how it hurts anyone.

>Saves my time and I don't see how it hurts anyone.

Its a lie? People are looking for the equivalent of a mechanical turk in terms of putting effort into making the upfront connection instead of just being one of the numberless connections you could try and make in a night with low up front effort.

If they find out after you get some sort of relationship going that you outsourced your initial contact to a computer program, I would be surprised if it was taken well.

Tinder already provides canned ice breakers. I wouldn’t be surprised if they started using ChatGPT to write better ones.
If the query is good, that’s not a lie.
I’ve considered outsourcing all of my online dating to humans that handle that professionally. The point is to get to the first REAL date and skip the B.S.
That’s a thought you could have, most people will generally find you an inhuman asshole for enacting it.

The point for relationships for most people is to make a human connection, not speed run to an arbitrary gate and count all the steps to that gate as “B.S.”

You also have to keep in mind that very little of online dating was real in the first place. You’re using pictures taken who knows when, in ideal situations, photoshopped to hell. Texting a person is not at all the same as talking to them, people can and already do use other resources (friends, the internet) to make themselves seem more interesting online. It’s a game. I’m in the get to the real date as quickly as possible camp as well.

Tinder might not like it, though, because they want you to swipe as much as possible. But we should understand that Tinder’s interests are not aligned with those of its users.

Meeting in person isn’t arbitrary. It’s when you can start making that human connection.
Dishonesty is unethical, and if it comes out I’d be surprised if it was taken better than lying about something like your marital status would.
Is it any more unethical than asking a witty friend for a pickup line? Because people do that all the time.
Far more. The social contract is giving someone else your attention. Even if you’re using someone else’s line — which, let’s face it, is likely to be pretty obvious — the conversation is genuine and representative of what future interactions with you are likely to be like.
Why would it be obvious that you’re using someone else’s pickup line?

In any case, for openers/pickup lines/ice breakers I don’t personally see any difference between using chat GPT and a friend or a pocket “1001 pickup lines to make your sweetheart swoon”. There’s an understanding that it’s a prefab solution so I think the harm is minimal if at all.

For the rest of the conversation it is less clear. If it’s a synchronous conversation it seems a bit weird to be using a computer to generate responses.

A line is just a line. An entire fake conversation seems like it moves quickly into the realm of deception – imagine thinking someone liked you and realizing they never even thought about it?
Is ChatGPT even capable of being witty or funny? Those seem like pretty advanced achievments for a behavior that requires so much nuance.
I asked it this question and instructed it to answer in a witty or funny way. Its response:

”Can a machine like me be witty and funny? Ha! It's like asking if a toaster can tap dance. I may not have feelings or emotions like humans, but I can still try my best to make you chuckle. Just don't expect me to be the next stand-up comedy sensation or anything. I'm just a simple computer program, after all. But hey, at least I'm trying, right?”

Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I think I can handle the downvotes.

I know a study that shows, that men and women are using tinder very differently.

Women choose very carefully which man they interact with. Men will right swipe nearly every women over a minimal threshold, they see what they can get and choose from this pool.

"Hey, sorry, I'm really tired today..." though of course it's a sad comment on your wit that someone would be more interested in talking to ChatGPT in messages than to you in person (they could save on the drinks / dinner and just self-serve for free).
there are other stimuli inputs you can leverage in person that can excite and bind oxytocin
To be honest, I think Stable Diffusion and chatGPT have improved my language skill somewhat. Especially SD text2img, where even synonyms and punctuation have certain influence on the outputs.

Maybe they'll also be a bit better at speaking naturally and un-reservedly? It does seems obvious that a few would stumble, with their Calculator taken away...

Is had a coworker remark they can read at almost twice the speed after gpt3. They used to be at 20 wpm now 55.