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by d23 1284 days ago
Where is this “stupid reliable battery” line coming from? I’ve heard this exact phrase multiple times, and I have no idea how a consumer would be in a position to judge such a thing, so it makes me suspicious.
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Similar thoughts here.

Taking the car on terrain is more a question of ride height than durability, anyway

Being able to roll over things is the minimum

The real car manufacturers are slow and lazy, but they only need to learn how to slap electric motors and batteries in there

As far as I'm concerned, musk did his part. He got EVs to be a part of the conversation

This has been my point in many arguments. I don't need an autopilot or 24/7 connectivity. I just want a basic jeep/sedan/truck that does what we've been doing with them for the past 100 years. My phone can do the rest of what I need from connectivity. I would be fine (more than fine) with a usb stick firmware upgrade. The less my car is connected over wifi/5g the better. I don't need anything beyond the standard instrument cluster. Upgrade me all around to LED lights everything and we're good. Think of me as a digital Amish. I only want those things that are functional and efficient.
I actually agree with this.

Want to start a new EV company? Could build a barebones, rugged EV that is cheap as hell, easy to hack, and has no unneeded electronics / no connectivity. I would switch over to that in a heartbeat.

I’m in a position to judge it because I have 200k miles in ~3 years, with a battery that has gotten beat to hell, in the coldest and warmest places in the US with 95% fast charging. It runs basically nonstop in the most extreme climates in the US.

I’d call that stupid reliable.

Doesn’t matter to me in any case; as long as Tesla can survive, all this hate just means there will be a shorter line when I grab my next one.

I've got a 25 year old car that's done all that, no major repairs. I'll be surprised if a Tesla lasts 12 years.
Your 25 year old car eats gasoline and takes a dump on the Earth, at the cost of the health of everyone.

I’m not willing to do that to anyone, and since an alternative exists, I use it.