[icare_1er]

Everytime topics like this are mentionned, with the totalitarian regimes in North Korea, Iran or elsewhere, it's funny to see how free access to resources, VPNs, open internet, etc... is treated differently. Good when it comes to dictatorships, but evil when in the west.

[fyresala]

When free access to resources, VPNs, open internet, etc. are considered evil in the west?

[icare_1er]

You haven't noticed those shiny banners on Tweets or Youtube videos, shadow-banning articles for your own good or warning you that it is "disputed" ?

Twitter recently has been a good example of desire to control information, with half of the political class and even head of states (Macron) saying that it should be "controlled" to restrict "fake news", by fake news they of course mean someone talking about H.Biden's laptop, or someone saying that there are only two genders.

[BurningPenguin]

Hey, one of France's neighbours here: Nobody gives a damn about you talking about dumb shit, as long as it doesn't endanger one or many people. What we actually care about, is a bunch of people - who coincidentally seem to come from the same political spectrum - using a public space, to artificially push unfounded conspiracy theories, and trying to rile up society, so they can seize power and abolish democracy as a whole. All by using fake accounts, bots and apparently Russian money to destabilize society, and also gathering weapons for their great "liberation" from the deep state or some shit. At the same time they keep on whining about "freedom of speech", every time their bullshit is getting called out.

Just recently, a bunch of conspiracy freaks in my country were raided by police, since they were found out to be preparing for a coup. Funnily enough, it was once again people from right-wing parties, Qanons and one descendant of former royalty in Germany.

[icare_1er]

"unfounded conspiracy theories, and trying to rile up society, so they can seize power and abolish democracy as a whole"

>> Yeah yeah i know. That's pretty much copy-paste what any totalitarian regimes says when they shutdown the internet, cf. Iran lately. And no thanks, I don't need you to decide for me if a content is rubbish or not, I can work it out for myself...

By the way, you wanna talk about how "unfounded" the "conspiracy theory" on H.Biden's laptop was ?

[vdnkh]

The fact that this comment isn't flagged and downvoted shows the absolute state of HN.

[BurningPenguin]

I'm talking about the EU part of your nonsense. I don't follow that Biden-Ukraine stuff. All i know is that there is still no proof for that and the only people whining about his alleged "corruption" are known to project their own corrupt ways onto others.

What i do see all the time here in Germany, are a bunch of bots and funny accounts with random numbers artificially pushing primarily far right topics on Twitter trends and other social media. And that is a problem indeed. As we have seen with those incidents, like that guy at a gas station being shot in the face for demanding the customer to wear a mask...

[icare_1er]

" I don't follow that Biden-Ukraine stuff."

>> Yeah, I'm not surprised, you seem to be fed directly by what Twitter and Youtube are telling you is worth knowing about, so no wonder you have never heard of certain things.

And again, "he's a bot pushing far-right topic" is textbook what any totalitarian regimes say when they justify shutting down the internet, I don't think you realize how much you sound exactly like the Ministry of Information in Iran, in Moscow, or in North Korea.... "oh, but i'm leftist, it's ok when WE do it".

[ekianjo]

by politicians who want to make it seem everyone using a VPN is doing evil stuff

[amanaplanacanal]

I haven’t heard this one, but I’m in the US. Maybe they are elsewhere. Can you name some of these politicians?