[icare_1er]

You haven't noticed those shiny banners on Tweets or Youtube videos, shadow-banning articles for your own good or warning you that it is "disputed" ?

Twitter recently has been a good example of desire to control information, with half of the political class and even head of states (Macron) saying that it should be "controlled" to restrict "fake news", by fake news they of course mean someone talking about H.Biden's laptop, or someone saying that there are only two genders.

[BurningPenguin]

Hey, one of France's neighbours here: Nobody gives a damn about you talking about dumb shit, as long as it doesn't endanger one or many people. What we actually care about, is a bunch of people - who coincidentally seem to come from the same political spectrum - using a public space, to artificially push unfounded conspiracy theories, and trying to rile up society, so they can seize power and abolish democracy as a whole. All by using fake accounts, bots and apparently Russian money to destabilize society, and also gathering weapons for their great "liberation" from the deep state or some shit. At the same time they keep on whining about "freedom of speech", every time their bullshit is getting called out.

Just recently, a bunch of conspiracy freaks in my country were raided by police, since they were found out to be preparing for a coup. Funnily enough, it was once again people from right-wing parties, Qanons and one descendant of former royalty in Germany.

[icare_1er]

"unfounded conspiracy theories, and trying to rile up society, so they can seize power and abolish democracy as a whole"

>> Yeah yeah i know. That's pretty much copy-paste what any totalitarian regimes says when they shutdown the internet, cf. Iran lately. And no thanks, I don't need you to decide for me if a content is rubbish or not, I can work it out for myself...

By the way, you wanna talk about how "unfounded" the "conspiracy theory" on H.Biden's laptop was ?

[vdnkh]

The fact that this comment isn't flagged and downvoted shows the absolute state of HN.

[BurningPenguin]

I'm talking about the EU part of your nonsense. I don't follow that Biden-Ukraine stuff. All i know is that there is still no proof for that and the only people whining about his alleged "corruption" are known to project their own corrupt ways onto others.

What i do see all the time here in Germany, are a bunch of bots and funny accounts with random numbers artificially pushing primarily far right topics on Twitter trends and other social media. And that is a problem indeed. As we have seen with those incidents, like that guy at a gas station being shot in the face for demanding the customer to wear a mask...

[icare_1er]

" I don't follow that Biden-Ukraine stuff."

>> Yeah, I'm not surprised, you seem to be fed directly by what Twitter and Youtube are telling you is worth knowing about, so no wonder you have never heard of certain things.

And again, "he's a bot pushing far-right topic" is textbook what any totalitarian regimes say when they justify shutting down the internet, I don't think you realize how much you sound exactly like the Ministry of Information in Iran, in Moscow, or in North Korea.... "oh, but i'm leftist, it's ok when WE do it".

[BurningPenguin]

> "Yeah, I'm not surprised, you seem to be fed directly by what Twitter and Youtube are telling you is worth knowing about, so no wonder you have never heard of certain things."

Ah yes, that must be it. Not the fact that this topic is mainly pushed by a known sensationalist crap show of a "news station", or a bunch of corrupt politicians whose followers tried to overthrow the government.

> And again, "he's a bot pushing far-right topic" is textbook what any totalitarian regimes say

Dude, if you don't even recognize accounts being about 2 months old, with literal serial numbers on it and not a single tweet until a certain point in time... Mixed with legit accounts of known party members of the AfD, a far right party, and people who follow the Russian propaganda of RT or literal Nazi blogs and have the "Reichsflagge" somewhere in their profile. It's so damn obvious, you'd have to be blind not to notice it.

Also, it's not about shutting down the internet. It's about applying existing law against mega cooperation who seem to think they stand above it. For some dumb reason, that seems controversial to you guys. No country in the world wants you to stand outside and scream "overthrow the government" or something. Why should it be allowed on the internet, then?

[icare_1er]

"No country in the world wants you to stand outside and scream "overthrow the government" or something"

>> When many BLM protesters, even US Senators (of Illinois if memory serves me right), advocated VIOLENT protests to take down the establishment, using rhetoric like "this is a war", leftists applauded, and none was censored by GAFAs. Double-standards ?

And how do you make a tweet saying that there are only two-genders, equivalent to "overthrow a government" ? Sounds like a pretty convenient excuse to censor pretty much anyone you want... again, just like Iran... in Iran, removing head-scarf is deemed equivalent to wanting to "overthrow the government".