[alephnan]

> Apple and many westerners never understand the risk and the ethics implication of doing business in X

For clothing, people can check the label. Most consumers simply don’t care enough when fast fashion is cheaper and more convenient than “ethical brands”

[ClumsyPilot]

Sonetimes you go buy an ethical brabd, and then turbs out ut was from thevsame factoemry. Mahor brands like Nestle havecslavery in the supply chain, without chiba being involved

[mantas]

For Nestle, supply chain is the least evil thing. Hard to beat their baby formulas marketing

Fuck Nestle.

[amelius]

People never see the harm done so they are basically ignorant.

Most people wouldn't eat meat if they had to kill an animal either.

[rolisz]

Plenty of people live on farms and grow animals, kill them and then eat them.

I haven't killed one myself, but I have been at pig butchering "parties" at my grandparents or uncles and saw how the sausage is made. Still tastes yummy.

[amelius]

I bet if you ask city people to either kill an animal or grab a shrink-wrapped package containing a vegetarian meat substitute, by far the majority would choose the latter.

[Sebb767]

But you're also comparing apples to oranges. I would take the shrink-wrapped thing to, just because I have neither the means nor the skill to slaughter (or store) an animal. Offer people to either get a crate of raw soy or kill an animal, then we are at a comparable level.

[amelius]

Ok, if it was not clear, add:

... under comparable circumstances.

[Karunamon]

… For a meal or 2, and then they're just as likely to grab the knife after realizing how nasty those meat substitutes taste compared to the real thing.

[tyingq]

I would guess a fair amount of city dwellers have gone fishing.

[oblak]

I've been there as well. Disgusting all around. I refused to eat it. Would've gone vegetarian 30+ years ago if I could.

[Shorel]

> Most people wouldn't eat meat if they had to kill an animal either.

I remember clearly we did the fattening and killing of chickens at home when I was a child. I had to step on a broom stick that was on the chicken neck, and wait until the chicken died. Then the adults cooked it and we ate it.

There was nothing strange or shameful about it, chickens were not 'pets', and every household did the same.

I would say people will step down their high horses as soon as the hunger and need of protein can not be satisfied with supermarket meat.

[xkbarkar]

Not slaughering your own food is a pretty recent thing and still how common in a large part of the world. Seems like a comment from an innocent kid this one.