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by sidewndr46 1290 days ago
No, because the employer must prove their are no legal residents in the US that are eligible for the job.
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This is a common myth but is not true for H-1B visas. It is true for EB2 and EB3 green cards, however.
As part of the LCA the employer must attest there is no strike or lockout, that the salary of similarly employed workers is not affected, & that the job application must be provided to workers already at the company.

So no, you can't just threaten to replace all your employees with H1-B visa holders.

Right, but that's not "their [sic] are no legal residents in the US that are eligible for the job". That's the PERM process.
Damn you are dense. It is on the employer to prove they are not affecting the wages of US legal residents as part of the LCA.

Bringing in foreign labor to a market implicitly lowers the wages of those workers. That is how markets work. Thus, there must be absolutely 0 residents already capable of performing the job. Otherwise the LCA is fraudulent. The only other possibility would be the employer is bringing in foreign labor to pay them a premium over legal residents. Which obviously no one does.

Breaking the site guidelines like that will get you banned here. Please don't do it again. Your account would be fine without that first sentence.

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This advice is incongruent with that of any lawyer I have consulted on the subject (both from the perspective of an employer and as an employee). To those interested in the subject, you'll have a more accurate picture of the current legal climate from a lawyer. In my experience, it will be very different from this user's legal determination of whether one must prove the existence of 0 US residents for the job. As an employer, USCIS has never required this proof from us for a H-1B.
Just as a clarification, the poster is talking about PERM for EB-2 and EB-3 visas which do kind of have those requirements, not H-1B.
> It is on the employer to prove they are not affecting the wages of US legal residents as part of the LCA.

False. All that matters is that H1B workers are being paid over the prevailing wage.

> Bringing in foreign labor to a market implicitly lowers the wages of those workers.

False. Almost every study done on this has shown the opposite.

> That is how markets work.

False. That is how the first lecture in Econ 101 says markets work. The first lecture in Econ 101 isn't real.

> Thus, there must be absolutely 0 residents already capable of performing the job.

False.

> Otherwise the LCA is fraudulent.

False.

> The only other possibility would be the employer is bringing in foreign labor to pay them a premium over legal residents. Which obviously no one does.

False. Depends on the employer. You have to pay H1B employees more than the prevailing wage for the job. Many employers target 80th or even 90th+ percentile wages for everyone, including H1B workers.

> False. Depends on the employer. You have to pay H1B employees more than the prevailing wage for the job. Many employers target 80th or even 90th+ percentile wages for everyone, including H1B workers.

Technically not false, pretty obtuse though. Or are you claiming that e.g. software engineers/IT professionals on H1B visas are paid more than local with comparable skills/qualifications?

> Bringing in foreign labor to a market implicitly lowers the wages of those workers. > False. That is how the first lecture in Econ 101 says markets work. The first lecture in Econ 101 isn't real.

You might try telling that J.Powell he probably never went past Econ 101 (if you listen what he says).

You do realize writing "False" doesn't make it an axiom?