[nscalf]

Society has a responsibility to step in and provide help to those who are so mentally ill they're going to end up homeless. Both for the individual, and society. If you're so mentally ill that you're choosing to end up in a gutter with your teeth rotting out, you are not mentally fit to make that decision.

[blooalien]

The problem I've personally seen is that we live in a society that will happily force situations on others "for their own good", but will actively fight against helping those of us who are literally losing their minds due to their teeth rotting out of their heads who desperately want help but cannot get it because we fall in some shitty "grey zone" where we have enough money to (barely) survive, but not enough to afford the medical care we so desperately need / want. I personally want nothing more in life than to get back to doing the various computer related work I've done and enjoyed most of my life, but at this stage I'm so mentally fucked up that I literally can not and I can't find the basic simple help I've needed desperately for decades now, and I'm not sure I'll ever be able to recover from the long-term damage done by the constant literal agony of my daily waking nightmare (the two to four hours of sleep I get on good nights, etc). Truth is that I'm probably not far off from ending up in a gutter myself at this point, all due to a run of bad luck starting with a broken tooth (and a couple other medical issues that were minor at the time). Fuck this world and the humans that created the society that poisons it for allowing these sorts of things to happen entirely out of greed and ignorance. I truly do look forward to the coming entirely human created apocalypse we're so hell-bent on having. At least I can die knowing we won't be escaping the planet to poison / destroy other amazing planets with our hatred and greed.

[jimmygrapes]

Hi. I'm you, ten years ago.

You have already heard all the unsolicited opinions and suggestions from people who have no fucking clue what you're going through or what 6oige been through. You have been told "just do X, Y, Z" and have been given countless resources both local and national that others think would help you. You tried contacting a few and they were too demanding, demeaning, or discriminating.

You spent a lot of time learning helplessness even as you became self sufficient to the best of your ability. It wasn't enough either way. Nobody wanted to help you, they just wanted to tell you that they want to, and you discovered that you don't even want their help anyway because it comes with caveats and requirements that you simply cannot tolerate or meet.

You found a way to stay connected and survive despite all this. You know you can take care of yourself. You know you are worth someone's effort and time, but you can't find that someone. Every time you think you do, they fuck you over in some way.

The tiny things added up. A broken this, a missed that, a forgotten something by someone. Dominoes fell. There are plenty of individuals at fault but it's mostly the systems, or The System. The World Should Be Better, but it's not. People are assholes, churches and charities are grifters, there's no hope for those who proffer hope. You're right.

You're right. You're on your own. You're better than all of them.

Prove it.

[blooalien]

> "Prove it."

Workin' on it to the best of my ability. 'Tis taking far longer than I'd hoped, and all the while the pain and lack of sleep drives me slowly insane… It's a race against time, and so far time is winning. Ah well… Live alone, die alone, even surrounded by 8 billion others… C'est la vie…

[notch656a]

Enjoy the generous 'help' New York provides when they operate an expanded system of wards:

  Senator Robert F. Kennedy toured the institution in 1965 and proclaimed that individuals in the overcrowded facility were "living in filth and dirt, their clothing in rags, in rooms less comfortable and cheerful than the cages in which we put animals in a zoo" and offered a series of recommendations for improving conditions.

...

   Shortly thereafter, in early 1972, Geraldo Rivera, then an investigative reporter for WABC-TV in New York, conducted a series of investigations at Willowbrook uncovering a host of deplorable conditions, including overcrowding, inadequate sanitary facilities, and physical and sexual abuse of residents by members of the school's staff. 

It's a far off memory now, but it turns out these are the conditions New Yorkers choose when they create these kind of expanded wards, which ultimately resulted in them being shut down. It's no wonder so many might choose their teeth rotting out in a gutter over this help.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willowbrook_State_School

[voakbasda]

This is why the most terrifying phase I will ever hear is “I’m from the government and I’m here to help.”