[lzooz]

You are free to live somewhere else then. I don't like the rules of Saudi Arabia so I don't live there.

[arnvald]

You have such choice. Some 17 million Saudi women don't.

[lzooz]

Not everything is the West's problem.

[ramphastidae]

It’s not about east vs west. It’s about basic human rights.

[bes__]

Conception of which is purely western category of thought.

[PhasmaFelis]

You would suddenly have a very clear and unyielding perspective on human rights if someone tried to take yours away.

[bes__]

Even if that was true (it isn't) it doesn't establish them as a real thing or as something that's not a western category of thought.

[algorias]

Sometimes I have to travel through those countries. E.g. my employer demands that I take the cheapest flight to attend a conference.

[TheGhostOfBoris]

> my employer demands that I take the cheapest flight to attend a conference.

WTF!

Several of my employees bowl from the pavilion end. Is utterly unthinkable to insist on them transiting through a territory so hostile to their very existence in order to save a few quid on expenses.

Your post is mind boggling to me. Is this how you expect to be treated as an employee?

[algorias]

Well, it's more of a question about what you're willing to make a fuss about.

[etrautmann]

What does that mean?

[skissane]

bowl from the pavilion end is euphemistic slang (chiefly British) for a gay man. It comes from cricket - the “pavilion end” is one end of the cricket ground.

[TheGhostOfBoris]

Would you like me to draw a map for you?

[int_19h]

Are you, though? Until very recently, women couldn't even leave Saudi Arabia without their (male) guardian's approval.