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by ramphastidae 1298 days ago
It’s not about east vs west. It’s about basic human rights.
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Conception of which is purely western category of thought.
You would suddenly have a very clear and unyielding perspective on human rights if someone tried to take yours away.
Even if that was true (it isn't) it doesn't establish them as a real thing or as something that's not a western category of thought.
> Even if that was true (it isn't)

So if your nation suddenly declared that men were (for example) required to cover their faces at all times and stay indoors unless escorted by a woman, you'd respect that cultural point of view and not protest?

If you're going to say that that's not a matter of violating your "human rights," but just the rights that you think people should have, please explain how those are different things.

To argue for something politically I am not mentally tied to that concept (obvious problem is how human rights were introduced in the first place if there was no conception of human rights), for example looking at the morality (which is not synonymous with notion of rights), the practicality or utility of a given problem or just plain personal preference.

I believe that in the end any "right" is just a privilege, there's nothing that makes them 'happen' by themselves. Surely enough, you can strip every "human right" away even if they're declared to be inalienable and before modern times, there were plenty of regimes that violated them. If they exists as something independent of western conceptions of thought, how come they were not a thing until now? The history is much longer than the 200 or so years that they have existed in our minds.

Do you perhaps have some method by which you discover new human rights?

You didn't answer my question.

> Do you perhaps have some method by which you discover new human rights?

How does anyone "discover" moral principles? Every society has had some idea of how humans should be treated.

You have about 150 years of history to catch up on. Sure, human rights was founded in western culture, but has been adopted across the world since.
In a sense it's true, the western way of thinking is being exported and is dominating 'foreign' patterns of thought, subjugating cultures to one dominant, economizing mode of being.