[drdrek]

I'll start by saying that we all hope for the end of violence, don't let internet trolls that spread hate blind you to the possibility of respectful co-existence, but I just wanted to share a "Fun fact".

There is an entire branch of the IDF responsible for border sensor and control systems, and operation is done mostly by women.

Be truthful, you imagined a man being behind the trigger.

[krolden]

Just because they're women doesn't mean they aren't "the man".

[yakubin]

I’d think that IDF having a lot of women in its ranks (compared to other countries) is one of the better-known things about it, so it’s not that surprising.

[impossiblefork]

What form do you imagine that respectful co-existence would take, considering that the occupation has continued so long?

[FormerBandmate]

Maybe one of the billion peace deals Israel has offered and the Palestinians have rejected

[impossiblefork]

Which one do you have in mind in particular?

As I understand it the peace proposal of 2000 gave the Palestinians only 66% of the West Bank, with those displaced previously thus being deprived of the property from which they had been displaced.

Other proposals have been of the same sort, and I do not see how the Palestinian Authority could accept such an agreement in a way that is in accordance with their duty to those displaced.

[weatherlite]

"Based on the Israeli definition of the West Bank, Barak offered to form a Palestinian state initially on 73% of the West Bank (that is, 27% less than the Green Line borders) and 100% of the Gaza Strip. In 10–25 years, the Palestinian state would expand to a maximum of 92% of the West Bank (91 percent of the West Bank and 1 percent from a land swap).[8][10] From the Palestinian perspective this equated to an offer of a Palestinian state on a maximum of 86% of the West Bank.[8]"

"Israel would retain around 9% in the West Bank in exchange for 1% of land within the Green Line."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Camp_David_Summit

The issue for the Palestinians is way way deeper than 9% of the 67 lines. Hammas doesn't hide its will to turn Israel proper into an Islamic state. PLO never actually forfeited the right of return which is considered a "sacred" right. If only the issue was as simple as offering 9% more percent.

[impossiblefork]

If you're representing people whose property rights have been infringed you can't agree that some of those people are to have to give up their property rights-- then you aren't representing them any more, so you are no longer their legitimate representative. Framing in terms of a sacred right is strange, and it's possible that the project will fail, but the PLOs legitimacy for those it represents must obviously hinge on actually representing them.

I very strongly dislike Islam, but to say that Israel has done as it has due to the Muslims seems difficult to support, since Christian Palestinians do exist, even if they're few and have been treated in the precise same way as the Muslims despite their lack of association with terrorism etcetera.

[tdeck]

Is this literally the "hire more women guards" meme?

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/hire-more-women-guards

[FormerBandmate]

It’ll probably be fully automated in decades, if not years. It doesn’t really matter if it’s a man or a woman pulling the trigger tbh

[slim]

there must be some discriminatory attitude within israeli military which women are thought unsuited for certain jobs so they direct them to indoor jobs in which they can safely participate in killing christians and muslims