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by KingOfCoders 1313 days ago
Corporate robots are the same everywhere.
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Also known as best practice.

The whole point of HR/PR in these situations is to make the situation as forgettable as possible.

Telling the truth is always better.

"I bet the company on metaverse and I was wrong." Or, "now looks like a really good time to lay everyone off because all the other companies are doing it too"

> the truth is always better

A favourite Mr. Robot scenes has everybody at the AllSafe office wearing a giant badge with their most fundamental truth written on it. It mocks a "post-privacy" some fools advocate, via the cynical eyes of Esmail's hacker character Elliot.

Point being; human relations don't work on "truths" but on carefully managed mutually secured fictions and personas to protect us and preserve power relations. Traditionally we call those "manners" (tactical lying so others can save face etc). But for the comedy of unexpectedly volunteered truths, who wouldn't enjoy a Mufti Day, where everyone at work gets to speak the unvarnished truth with absolute impunity for a day?

Would telling the truth be better if the real truth was “We’ve been waiting for a good excuse to drop a bunch of people and boost the bottom line short-term so we can get some loans”?

p.s. I’m making up a scenario based on other businesses, I have no idea what meta is doing these days

> I have no idea what meta is doing these days

What you said, but in a Second Life clone.

I don’t think it’s that simple — yes maybe in private you could say that, but this would set them up for an investor revolt or make them come across as huge assholes if they say things like that.

They may be true, but telling it to everyone is definitely not always better.

Making shit up to obscure the truth is a way bigger asshole move than just telling the truth.
What did they lie about?
Of course. It's not about the best move or what looks better. Nobody cares for that.

It's about the truth. That's what people care about in the end. And if none of it was said here, parent is pointing out that Mark is truly an ass. Something like "laying off people because other companies are doing it" is pretty fucked up.

Many people can't handle the truth. That's why see weird situations that don't make sense(i.e religion, populist leaders, snakeoil etc)
The tech industry labor market has been cooling rapidly this year, it's not only ad-tech companies, and certainly not only in companies who might have over-hired due to betting everything on metaverse.
Or the fed increased interest rates and the economy is forced into recession too stop inflation.
zuck did say “I want to take accountability for these decisions and for how we got here.”
Is he laying off himself too? Because simply saying "I take accountability" without any actual consequences isn't taking accountability.
For better or worse (obviously for worse) his relationship with the company is fundamentally different than that of every other employee. He’s a founder and holds a majority of voting equity. That makes him inherently unaccountable in a way that is nearly without precedent in the modern corporate era.
Losing 70% of his net worth makes him directly accountable to the success of the company (lack thereof).
he lost 75% of his personal wealth, so there have been pretty real consequences for him already
What does that even mean? He won't have to work for a few centuries instead of a millennium? Lol.

Compared to his employees' livelihoods, a billionaire losing some bit of their immeasurable wealth is irrelevant. He made a stupid bet and doesn't suffer any real consequences for it because Meta has no real accountability.

Losing 75% of wealth is the consequence of holding meta stocks, but it does not make him immune to accountability.
Typical Gavin Belson move: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u48vYSLvKNQ

Of course it has been done for millennia.

How does a CEO with enough class B shares to control shareholder voting take accountability?

Self flagellation perhaps?

What does taking accountability mean for a permanent CEO who cannot be fired by anyone?
It means writing a really heartfelt form letter.
Even if he did, would anyone believe it? This is Zuckerberg we’re talking about.
As much as “thoughts and prayers”. It mainly makes the CEO feel better.
And who else is accountable? He's the top dog. And apparently well paid to state the obvious.
Are you trolling? that would be worse for literally everyone involved. Have you held yourself to this standard in your professional life? it seems so absurd
Yeah, in 2008 I saw the writing on the wall. Told my team we'd all be laid off soon. I finished the project I was on first and was the first laid off due to no more work.
Your say best practice, I see apologies for doublespeak and the attempt to normalize unaccountable dehumanizing statements from corporate lackeys.
Honestly I think GTP-3 can generate a much better human-touched message than the template
Typo: GPT-3
Yes, perhaps for legal reasons, but what does using a template that feesl like GPT-3 tell the people about management that are still with the company?
> best practice.

Which is actually average practice... and in most distributions that's definitionally not the best.

The overlords saw they were losing control with people opting to WFH and great resignation … so they said “What audacity … inflict pain and suffering on the mortals”.
Well, we'll see who wins.

My prediction: after a rough period, the situation stabilizes and a pattern emerges: most white-collar workers will try to land a job with companies offering remote and hybrid work whereas the rest will have to have a stationary job and work their way up to upgrade to remote/hybrid.

Or, the dynamics behind the two events are very similar and there’s only so many different ways to describe it, so you shouldn’t expect significant variation in how they’re described.

Not everything has to be 100% brand-new and unique.

The two companies probably hired the same consulting firm to plan their respective layoffs.
That would make it very simple for real AI bots to take its place.
it took the collective brain power of an army of Big Three management consultant alumni to draft this soulless document.