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by travisporter 1313 days ago
zuck did say “I want to take accountability for these decisions and for how we got here.”
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Is he laying off himself too? Because simply saying "I take accountability" without any actual consequences isn't taking accountability.
For better or worse (obviously for worse) his relationship with the company is fundamentally different than that of every other employee. He’s a founder and holds a majority of voting equity. That makes him inherently unaccountable in a way that is nearly without precedent in the modern corporate era.
Losing 70% of his net worth makes him directly accountable to the success of the company (lack thereof).
he lost 75% of his personal wealth, so there have been pretty real consequences for him already
What does that even mean? He won't have to work for a few centuries instead of a millennium? Lol.

Compared to his employees' livelihoods, a billionaire losing some bit of their immeasurable wealth is irrelevant. He made a stupid bet and doesn't suffer any real consequences for it because Meta has no real accountability.

If we want to treat the numbers as meaningful and make low effort quips about wealth inequality being bad for society when they go up then we must also concede that it is meaningfully bad for him when the numbers go down if we are to be logically consistent.

Personally I think beyond a couple billion it serves no purpose for quality of life for anyone and we only care in order to crudely "keep score" of who's in charge of more "stuff" since it can't really be liquidated or repurposed other endeavors efficiently and these people are de-factor world leaders in some capacity (a private industry analogue to GDP if you will).

It's not a logical inconsistency to point out that dollars matter a lot less once you have enough.

The difference between having a dollar and ten dollars a day is huge. The difference between a hundred and a thousand a day is still big, sure, but you're probably not going to die of starvation either way. And once you're in dev salary land and higher, you're counting bedrooms, acres, cars, vacations, yachts...

The wealth inequality thing matters not because Bezos has spaceships and Zuckerberg only has 3d glasses. It's that we still have millions of people with food and shelter insecurity, regardless of how much the richest have.

It's not a linear thing. Zuckerberg losing a few million is utterly meaningless vs a regular family losing a few thousand.

> If we want to treat the numbers as meaningful and make low effort quips about wealth inequality being bad for society when they go up then we must also concede that it is meaningfully bad for him when the numbers go down if we are to be logically consistent.

No. If wealth inequality is bad, that does not imply wealth is good.

If we simply assume inequality is the bad thing, then we could deduce that the best society would be hunter gatherers with zero wealth, and Zuck losing wealth is a good thing, because it makes society more equal.

It is therefore logically consistent to say "wealth inequality is bad and Zuck losing wealth is good".

That wealth is not “immeasurable”. It’s just hard for someone to understand when their point of comparison is personal finances.

It directly impacts his ability to start new companies, new charities, etc. This is on the scale of wiping out the abilities to create fabs, do infrastructure projects, etc.

Sounds like a good thing. Last thing we need is billionaires owning more things.
It has nothing to do with ownership being good or bad. It’s having people with vision and acumen for financially sustainable businesses setting up these projects for success.

Look at how much the Gates foundation has done for Malaria. What government institution has been able to compete on that level with or without sucking down involuntary tax dollars to support it?

Losing 75% of wealth is the consequence of holding meta stocks, but it does not make him immune to accountability.
Typical Gavin Belson move: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u48vYSLvKNQ

Of course it has been done for millennia.

How does a CEO with enough class B shares to control shareholder voting take accountability?

Self flagellation perhaps?

What does taking accountability mean for a permanent CEO who cannot be fired by anyone?
It means writing a really heartfelt form letter.
Even if he did, would anyone believe it? This is Zuckerberg we’re talking about.
As much as “thoughts and prayers”. It mainly makes the CEO feel better.
And who else is accountable? He's the top dog. And apparently well paid to state the obvious.