[spencerf]

With the image generators coming out I’ve been scrambling to understanding their place, I’ve been looking to the chess world as a model of the future.

In chess, people would still rather see people play chess than a robot. The top chess players in the world started as a brute force obsession about the game. Those would go on to teach the next generation. They advent of computers allowed for historically statically advantaged moves. ML came along and disrupted even further.

Now many of the top chess players consult the ML chess oracle.

I see the same thing happening in a lot of areas: grammar, image generation, text replies.

I see a world where humans are celebrated for their humanness while machines assist.

[magic_hamster]

This is vastly different. Chess is a battle of minds between people while you don't necessarily need context to enjoy art, and that's where AI art is likely to take over.

Yes, considering the story behind art pieces and the artist does significantly impact the way we interact with art, but you can still just like a painting or a piece of pixel art without knowing anything else about it. While Chess is about the players, art has products that exist on their own.

[_bkyr]

> That's where AI art is likely to take over

I guess that depends on what the definition of art is. If it's a digitally rendered illustration then maybe.

If it's a physical object crafted to imperfect perfections then no. AI can probably produce some alternative version of Guernica but that's just a fascimile of something that's already been made in a digital space.

I can see an artist using these tools as a way to produce ground-breaking work in the future but I would wager the artist that does that could make good art without any of these tools. You still need a craftsman to master the tools and without knowing the basics you're left with images of Elon Musk as a Disney princess on repeat.

[tralarpa]

But chess has a clear goal. It makes sense to consult a machine that is better at reaching that goal than a human. What is the goal of art and what does "better" mean for art?

(I admit that I intentionally misunderstood your post a bit. I suppose you are talking about images and text for general use, not only in an artistic context)

[qikInNdOutReply]

Sort of like the paralympics?