[Test0129]

Stay mad imo. Bicyclists should be licensed and insured just like cars. They pose a danger to everyone around them just like cars, and should have to be able to make anyone they harm whole. Anti-car rhetoric is absolute top tier nonsense. It's harder to get access to a 2000 pound vehicle than it is to get access to a projectile on two wheels that can easily flatten someone.

[joshlemer]

Yeah you're right. The greatest danger to pedestrians in North America is all those millions of "projectile cyclists" flattening them. That's what the statistics show. Today alone, about 21 people walking in the United States will be killed by motor vehicles. But we should focus on the approximately 8 pedestrians killed per year in collisions with bicycles.

[hooverd]

Ideally we can get real protected bike infrastructure and bad cyclists will lose their "whatabout cars" excuse.

[joshlemer]

It's revealing of your true priorities that you only care about the massive amount of death and devastation cars inflict on pedestrians and cyclists insofar as it inhibits you from marginalizing people riding bikes.

[hooverd]

Calm down, you're not being marginalized. I'm fighting for more bike infrastructure. However, "but cars" isn't an excuse to be a jerk to pedestrians.

[joshlemer]

Cyclists are constantly being marginalized, all day, every day.