[hooverd]

Ideally we can get real protected bike infrastructure and bad cyclists will lose their "whatabout cars" excuse.

[joshlemer]

It's revealing of your true priorities that you only care about the massive amount of death and devastation cars inflict on pedestrians and cyclists insofar as it inhibits you from marginalizing people riding bikes.

[hooverd]

Calm down, you're not being marginalized. I'm fighting for more bike infrastructure. However, "but cars" isn't an excuse to be a jerk to pedestrians.

[joshlemer]

Cyclists are constantly being marginalized, all day, every day.