[howinteresting]

I used to feel that way re Ryzen, but 12th and 13th gen Intel has matched it (and with E-cores has exceeded it in many respects).

[CameronNemo]

What do you mean by "matched" or "exceeded"? Are you saying Intel has better performance per watt? Or better idle power consumption? Which Zen generation are you comparing to? Zen 3, 3+, or 4?

[howinteresting]

Raptor Lake is roughly equivalent in perf/watt to Zen 4 and Apple's M series, at least going by eco mode benchmarks. Seems like E cores would get better idle consumption as well.

The days of 14nm+++++++ are over.

edit: sorry meant Raptor Lake.

[CameronNemo]

I have a hard time believing that Intel is beating Apple Silicon in performance per watt.

[howinteresting]

So did I until I saw the Cinebench numbers at 65W.

[CameronNemo]

So why not link them?

[howinteresting]

Mostly because I can't find them with a quick Google search and I don't want to put more time into it.

edit: found them: https://www.club386.com/intel-core-i9-13900k-vs-amd-ryzen-9-...

M1 ultra Cinebench is 21700 or so.