[toomuchtodo]

To not drag down everyone else’s quality of life. Culture comes from the top. Defaults matter.

Overarching thesis is the people who work to live don’t want to be dragged by those who live to work. Not a judgement about someone’s passion.

[apozem]

The pressure is there if someone on your team works nights and weekends, especially if they are senior to you. They may not even realize they are pressuring you! But it is impossible to avoid.

Something to remember, especially if you have anyone working under you - your work level will be seen as the minimum for your team members, not the exception.

[ljm]

I agree with the overarching sentiment, which is to lead by example (even if you're not explicitly in a leadership position).

At the same time I can accept some nuance here, e.g. working nights and weekends because you're taking some time back during the day in the week.

Similarly with remote working, if there's a wide enough timezone difference you might shift your routine to maximise overlap with the team.

I'm strongly in favour of maintaining harmony between work and life such that you're able to comfortably do both, but would not insist on a hard and fast rule.

If someone even further up the ladder says X does nights and weekends, so should the rest of the team, then the buck stops with that person, and they are contributing negatively to the culture.

[danielrhodes]

It seems unreasonable to dictate the way your colleagues work because it doesn't match your own value system. If the culture of the company/team is fast paced or long hours, maybe it isn't the right fit for you.

Generally speaking though, companies should value output and results over hours. Easier said than done. Additionally, value should be placed on what one commits to do and delivers on. So if somebody is constantly having to pull late nights to complete work, they may be overcommitting. It's also possible a manager will consistently push people to overcommit: this is a problem because that can indicate poor boundaries, bad planning, poor resourcing, and so on.

[kdmccormick]

> If the culture of the company/team is fast paced or long hours, maybe it isn't the right fit for you.

Sure. And if the culture of the company/team is working 40 hours a week max and calling people out when they work more than that, then maybe it isn't the right fit for you.