[sokoloff]

OK, let's take a different tack here. Define an amount of money sufficient to buy 5 iPhones, pay for the time/effort to run the test, and leave some profit on top. You and I each put up that amount of money and we test 5 stock iPhones against 5 iPhones with the glue/gaskets removed in some water intrusion tests in a swimming pool and then disassemble them to inspect.

If the glue isn't effective (your premise), I'd expect the phones to behave broadly similarly and you win the bet.

If the glue is effective, I'd expect the 5 no-glue phones to experience more water intrusion and I win the bet.

How about $50K each, plus $5K each for phones, plus $5K each on top to be donated to the FSF? If there is no difference (or if the no-gasket phones outperform), you keep all 10 phones, my $50K, and are out $5K for phones and $5K to FSF. If the glued phones outperform, I keep the 10 phones, your $50K, and am out $5K for phones and $5K to FSF. Either way, the FSF gets $10K. (If you dislike the FSF, pick another remotely reasonable charity and if you win, both of us donate $5K to that charity.)

I'm sure we can find some tech YouTuber to help us film and broadcast the outcome publicly.

You in?

[simion314]

Your experiment is invalid, I did not proven that glue is 0% effective , so I already gave yout he claim that glue might be say 55 effective and maybe monkey shit is 6% and some water repelling fats could be 50% effective.

It is Apple fans that ppretend that glue is used for water proofing while Apple claims the phone is not water proof. So this fanboys need to prove the woprld and to Apple that glue purpose is to let you swim with your phone.

[sokoloff]

You said "What I can prove is that 'glue helps you swim with your iPhone is bullshit'".

This wager seems like an easy $40K, $10K to the charity of your choice, plus uncountable value in internet points if that's right.

*-https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33404844

[simion314]

The experiment will prove that you can swim but only in that exact same conditions, temperature, water salt content , humidity in air.

Why are you invested in this to contradict Apple documentation ? search this link for "swiming" https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207043 , seems there is damage in many cases, maybe is not imediate so guys like you that change their phones often d not see the consequences.

[sokoloff]

So, if I won the bet, we would only conclude that under those specific conditions that your claim wasn't upheld? In other words, under those conditions, the glue wasn't bullshit with respect to swimming, but is under most other conditions?

You have no idea how often I change phones, but the fact that I'm well-experienced with changing batteries on family phones that I own may give you some hints as to the frequency thereof. (I use an XS Max from 2018.)