[Rygian]

I fail to see what is unreasonable in my attitude, you give no explanation in your comment.

My "team" is composed of around 700 people across Asia and Europe.

My kids are in school during work hours.

My 6pm—midnight slot is strictly private life and there is no reason for it to be otherwise.

So, your last line contradicts the rest of your own comment.

[bamboozled]

Ok, that's all pretty subjective.

I said in another comment, If you were a police officer, pilot, truck driver, deep sea diver or in numerous other professions, you'd be expected to do some weird hours and have a lot of time away from home.

This is where I think people are being unreasonable. Remote work, we have it better than ever, no commutes, no time away from family, almost non-inconvenience but now, even a late night meeting is against "my time".

I think with remote work, the cost of walking 50 meters, sitting in a comfortable chair and dialing into a meeting from 11pm-12am is pretty inconsequential all things considered. You can probably have the meeting in your jammies on the couch.

I'm not 100% discounting that it's inconvenient, but I mean, relative to the things I've been through and others have to go through, it's minuscule in comparison.

Lastly, I think you're just lucky you work for a company who allows you to just say no to meeting with your peers in other time zones. Again, you might be lucky and everyone has a good crossover with you, but many don't have this luxury, and never meeting with your peers, at least where I work, means you're not part of the team and you're getting fired.

We rotate the difficult meetings in the group so we all feel some of the pain, but three is a bit of pain and I guess that's why it's called "a job" and why I'm part of a team.

[mantas]

Meeting ending at 00:00 means you go to sleep at 01:00 or so. That may be fine if you can sleep on till 9:00. But if the rest of the house wakes up at 6:30 to make their schedule… you’re in for a trouble.

[bamboozled]

That's true, it's not a good situation to be in that one having been through it myself, also someone who has had my fair share of insomnia.

Staying at peoples houses who get up early and make a lot of noise after a hard night falling asleep is never much fun.

A lot of good points on this thread, and even though I've always advocated for doing more async work within our team, I'll push a bit harder now.

[jenscow]

I think the unreasonable part of it is, if the other participants were in the same mindset then there would be no meeting.

I'm all for restricting employers from my personal space, however I would expect the same to be applied to all other members rather than be a special case.

Personally, I tend to rotate the awkward meetings so it sucks equally rather than weighted more on someone else. As a remote worker, myself and my family are ok with that because I'm available during the daytime.

[ianbutler]

That's not their fault or problem though. It's the company's.

[jenscow]

Regardless of who's to blame, the problem still exists.

However, if you're unable to work async nor be flexible to accommodate your fellow team members, then I suppose the company's recruitment process is to blame.

[ianbutler]

I’d agree they should be upfront about out of normal working hours meetings. I know id pass.