[clouddrover]

> On the other hand I'm not sure I like the idea of government mandating electrical connectors on devices

Depends on the device.

Standards for EV fast charging are a very good thing. North America has two different plugs and protocols for DC fast charging (three if you count CHAdeMO) and it's a mess. The EU has standardized on CCS Type 2 Combo so any brand of CCS charging car can charge on any brand of CCS charging network. That's good common sense and it benefits everyone.

Incompatible charging infrastructure doesn't benefit any EV owner. It's a drag on the EV market. Closed networks like Tesla's and Rivian's are continuing to be part of the problem.

Tesla is (very) slowly changing in North America:

https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/28/22596337/tesla-supercharg...

Rivian still hasn't got the memo. Rivian's chargers are at least CCS but because they're brand exclusive they don't see much use:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbvW0nK38j8

Those chargers could be earning more revenue right now instead of sitting idle. All they have to do is unlock the software.

[kwhitefoot]

> Closed networks like Tesla's and Rivian's are continuing to be part of the problem.

All new Tesla stations in Europe use CCS and most of the older stations have been retrofitted with CCS connectors in addition to Type 2.

I have an adaptor for my 2017 Model S that allows it to use CCS instead of Type 2 and newer cars can be converted so that CCS connectors can be used without adaptors. All new EVs in Europe already use CCS and Tesla are slowly opening up their network to other brands of car.

So how is Tesla part of the problem?

[dtech]

Relevant to this discussion: Tesla only uses CCS in EU because it was mandated by law, just like USB-C now will be.

[clouddrover]

> All new EVs in Europe already use CCS and Tesla are slowly opening up their network to other brands of car.

Yes. You're restating what I have said. Tesla should hurry up and open them all.

> So how is Tesla part of the problem?

Because Tesla chargers are not open to all brands everywhere.

A better question to ask is why is Tesla not the leader in multi-brand charging. Other charging networks have delivered chargers which support all brands of EV with longer cables for more vehicle types and are faster than Tesla's chargers to boot.

How can I charge my Volvo truck on Tesla's existing chargers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UAttTG03WA

What about my bus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lNTjJW7HEY

How do I charge my Porsche Taycan on Tesla's chargers at 800 volts instead of this 400 volt business: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0F42jY3dD8

How do I charge my BMW without blocking another charger due to Tesla's short-sighted charger design: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y33AArvMUQ

Tesla's V4 chargers will apparently have longer cables, but Tesla is still no Alpitronic.