[shiomiru]

I'm having trouble understanding how giving this metadata to a centralized entity makes the transaction more "private".

In the example, now instead of sharing my IP with a therapist, (who I presumably trust enough to... not ddos me?), I'm sharing the fact that I was talking to a therapist with a company I possibly didn't even know existed.

Better yet, I suppose I can now be barred from accessing webrtc services if said company decides I'm a "threat" based on all the metadata they've been collecting through their other services.

[ghhgfghfghfhf]

This comment asks all the right questions!

This allows CF to construct a person graph, which is the only power Facebook have in the advertising business. ;)

This will also allow CF to police WebRTC and block people out, like they already do for the rest of the internet. Get ready to answer webRTC captcha(TM) on every call if you use linux or such.

[skybrian]

This infrastructure isn’t needed for two person conversations. What you’ve missing is that in a group situation, you’re not just trusting the group leader, but everyone in the call. The larger the group and the lower the barriers to entry, the worse it is.

That said, I’m not sure that leaking an IP address is a big deal for most people. (It might be important in Ukraine, though.)

[bryfb]

I'm so tired of this FUD cloudflare throws around. So far, I don't see a single cloudflare product that solves the purported problem without introducing three others that they conveniently don't talk about.

And when the inevitable curation / editorial / policing challenge of running half the internet does knock on their doorstep, they go "well we're not the ones who are supposed to be policing it, but what are you gonna do?!"