[totallyblasted]

I want Silicon Valley to produce quality products and innovation. I don't care what culture it has as long as it respects the Constitution and the laws of the land and everyone gets a fair chance on the basis of the work they actually produce. NY Times has declined big time in recent years.

[rocket_surgeron]

The only thing Silicon Valley produces now are

1. venture capital pyramid schemes,

2. adware privacy-invading nightmares,

3. the next "x" with "x" being some successful social network that they want to make even worse so it can be monetized more easily,

4. buildings in which executives and managers sit, controlling far-flung centers of innovation where actual work happens, and

5. whatever HP is vomiting out next quarter

Innovation has moved elsewhere.

You don't believe me. I know you don't.

The executives, sales, and marketing folks currently driving Intel into the ground are in Santa Clara. The engineers trying to save it are in Oregon, Colorado, and overseas.

Speaking of Intel much of the Zen microarchitecture was done at Austin, and Colorado, and India. Not silicon valley.

Of course, Apple is still there, somewhat. Getting someone on HN to say Apple is innovative would make my day!

People in Oregon, Texas, Colorado, North Carolina, and elsewhere are building the future.

People in Silicon Valley are trying to figure out the best way to squeeze people in order to wring dollar bills out of them.

[blueblisters]

This is a very cynical take. Incremental innovation has captured most of the attention in the last decade but there are a lot of smart people in SV working in AI which will lead to real innovation in personal computing and robotics this decade. Some of these innovations will emerge out of smaller companies that are "classic venture bets" and will give big tech a run for its money.

Does't mean that innovation isn't happening elsewhere but SV still leads in raw talent density in everything related to computing.

[iancmceachern]

Good ones still exist, biotechnology, Robotics, a few other domains.

[jdmg94]

Except you didn't even read the article. We cannot expect innovation by giving Adam Neuman (Who burned billions in VC funding on WeWork) another billion dollars for a second chance. This is also against the 14th Amendment but of course if it doesn't affect you then you won't give a fuck

[bsder]

Sure, the public doesn't benefit, but why wouldn't Andressen fund Neuman?

Neuman produced a cult that generated a beautiful pyramid scheme for those who got out early. From a VC point of view, the only issue was that VC's didn't have enough of a collar on Neuman to be able to shove him aside when he became a liability. I'm sure that mistake has been corrected.

Anyone who thinks VCs are anything other than self-interested sociopaths hasn't been paying attention.

[swivelmaster]

"everyone gets a fair chance on the basis of the work they actually produce"

This is already not the case and the article very clearly highlights this, if you had bothered to read it.

[coldtea]

NYT has slipped into outrage culture

[iancmceachern]

I'd say not just NYT but journalism and culture as a whole has.

[nomdep]

Since 2016…. But I don’t think it’s profitable anymore

[greendude29]

What an inanely dumb comment - could've been written by Trump himself.

I don't particularly care for the NYT, but I've found that people with overly simplistic and hyper-narrow views of the world have become more common in silicon valley in the last 8 or so years. Chances are the reason for this is exactly what the article calls out, silicon valley was once about technology and innovation, it is now about business. It hence attracts business people and has changed the general populace of it quite a bit.

> I don't care what culture it has as long as it respects the Constitution and the laws of the land

You know that there are people outside America right? The "constitution" is not a global concept, but Silicon Valley cannot thrive without globalization.

[dang]

Would you please edit name-calling and swipes out of your HN comments? They're against the site guidelines and evoke even worse from others. Please make your substantive points without any of that. Your comment here would be fine (and more persuasive) without those bits.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html