[rocket_surgeron]

The only thing Silicon Valley produces now are

1. venture capital pyramid schemes,

2. adware privacy-invading nightmares,

3. the next "x" with "x" being some successful social network that they want to make even worse so it can be monetized more easily,

4. buildings in which executives and managers sit, controlling far-flung centers of innovation where actual work happens, and

5. whatever HP is vomiting out next quarter

Innovation has moved elsewhere.

You don't believe me. I know you don't.

The executives, sales, and marketing folks currently driving Intel into the ground are in Santa Clara. The engineers trying to save it are in Oregon, Colorado, and overseas.

Speaking of Intel much of the Zen microarchitecture was done at Austin, and Colorado, and India. Not silicon valley.

Of course, Apple is still there, somewhat. Getting someone on HN to say Apple is innovative would make my day!

People in Oregon, Texas, Colorado, North Carolina, and elsewhere are building the future.

People in Silicon Valley are trying to figure out the best way to squeeze people in order to wring dollar bills out of them.

[blueblisters]

This is a very cynical take. Incremental innovation has captured most of the attention in the last decade but there are a lot of smart people in SV working in AI which will lead to real innovation in personal computing and robotics this decade. Some of these innovations will emerge out of smaller companies that are "classic venture bets" and will give big tech a run for its money.

Does't mean that innovation isn't happening elsewhere but SV still leads in raw talent density in everything related to computing.

[iancmceachern]

Good ones still exist, biotechnology, Robotics, a few other domains.