[vytis]

Another incredible ultra-runner from Lithuania is Aidas Ardzijauskas who last year completed his 444 day run covering 30303 km, which is on average 68km every day for almost 1.5 years! His plan originally was to run around the world, but during the pandemic it wasn't possible to do that so he just ran it all in Lithuania. Unfortunately there isn't much English-language coverage about the monumental feat, but this is readable with Google translate: https://www.lrt.lt/naujienos/sportas/10/1568074/finisas-pasi...

And he tracked everything on Strava too - https://www.strava.com/athletes/16416410

[spiderfarmer]

That’s an amazing feat. Goes to show we once were predators who weren’t fast but had the stamina to outrun most of our prey.

[Andy_G11]

Interesting video here of one of the San people running down a Kudu which collapses from exhaustion after an 8 hour chase: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=826HMLoiE_o. Hard to compare this to Sorokin because the hunter is running in veld, not on a road, and has far less access to refueling points. Also, if he fails to track the prey down on day one, he would probably have a go again on day two, maybe even day three. Interesting claims too, that as an upright runner which sweats from glands all over his body, and as a creature capable of carrying water, man may have had persistence advantages over creatures with less ability to cool themselves and which run on four legs - a less energy efficient mode of running according to Attenborough.

[igouy]

You might find this interesting —

"Rather than being the elite heat-endurance athletes of the animal kingdom, humans are instead using their elite intellect to leverage everything they can from their moderate endurance capabilities, optimising their behaviours during a hunt to bridge the gap between their limited athleticism and that of their more physically capable prey. Our capacity for profuse sweating provides a subtle but essential boost to our endurance capabilities in hot environments. This is a slight but critical advantage that our ingenuity magnifies to achieve the seemingly impossible: the running down of a fleeter-footed quarry."

2020 "Are humans evolved specialists for running in the heat? Man vs. horse races provide empirical insights"

https://physoc.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1113/EP088502

[igouy]

"Over the course of 20 years, only two of the ER hunts observed by Liebenberg were spontaneous. Eight others were prompted by Liebenberg so that they could be filmed for television documentaries."

p436 "The endurance running hypothesis and hunting and scavenging in savanna-woodlands"

https://www.originalwisdom.com/wp-content/uploads/bsk-pdf-ma...

[igouy]

Dog owners know to take water with them for the dog, if they're walking a few miles on a hot day.

[igouy]

That gives the wrong impression. That's about people trying to keep their pets comfortable, not about how well dogs can run in the heat.

[igouy]

> Goes to show…

Let's think about that for a moment.

No, it does not.

[boston_clone]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_hunting

[igouy]

fyi 2020 "Are humans evolved specialists for running in the heat? Man vs. horse races provide empirical insights"

https://physoc.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1113/EP088502

[igouy]

Non-sequitur.

spiderfarmer claimed — Aidas Ardzijauskas's amazing feat "Goes to show" blah blah.

No, it does not.

You won't find anyone running 200 miles in descriptions of persistence hunting ;-)

[boston_clone]

I'm not sure why you're attempting to call out non-existent fallacies and having so much difficulty accepting the hypothesis.

The person in question averaged roughly 40 miles per day. The specific example provided in the wikipedia article - full of citations to supplementary materials - detail a group running up to 35 miles per day.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[igouy]

Neither Aleksandr Sorokin's 24-hour world record or Aidas Ardzijauskas's daily run have anything to say about persistence hunting.

Sorokin's run is way too fast. Aidas Ardzijauskas's run is too long and too frequent. For persistence hunting think walking and jogging.

Did you misread "The hunters run down an antelope, such as a kudu, … a distance of up to 35 km (22 mi)" as being 35 miles?