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by srk_hn 1384 days ago
So India is a population of over 1B, and the US+UK is about 400m.

Why should I assume I know better what the solution is for the problems plaguing a country in a completely different part of the world housing 1/8th the world population while living in the comforts of a 1st world country? Is the CEO advocating for genocide?

Or perhaps we should get off our high horse and shouldn't judge other people for things we cannot possibly understand anything about?

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Experts have been warning about genocide in India[1][2][3] because Hindu nationalists and right-wing extremists in power have been persecuting minorities and stoking anti-Muslim sentiment.

This has directly led to violence and death, as well[4][5]. RSS, the party that held the event the CEO was going to go to, has also be directly attributed to violence against Muslims[6].

Exactly what problems are plaguing the country where the solution is discrimination, violence, death and potentially genocide?

Here's what the political rhetoric looks like, from an article titled "India's Hindu extremists are calling for genocide against Muslims"[3]:

> At a conference in India last month, a Hindu extremist dressed head-to-toe in the religion's holy color, saffron, called on her supporters to kill Muslims and "protect" the country.

> "If 100 of us become soldiers and are prepared to kill 2 million (Muslims), then we will win ... protect India, and make it a Hindu nation," said Pooja Shakun Pandey, a senior member of the right-wing Hindu Mahasabha political party, according to a video of the event.

> Her words and calls for violence from other religious leaders were met with a roar of applause from the large audience, a video from the three-day conference in the northern Indian city of Haridwar shows.

Here's what the actions that stem from the persecution and politics look like[5]:

> The 2020 Delhi riots, or North East Delhi riots, were multiple waves of bloodshed, property destruction, and rioting in North East Delhi, beginning on 23 February 2020 and caused chiefly by Hindu mobs attacking Muslims. Of the 53 people killed, two-thirds were Muslims who were shot, slashed with repeated blows, or set on fire. The dead also included a policeman, an intelligence officer and over a dozen Hindus, who were shot or assaulted. More than a week after the violence had ended, hundreds of wounded were languishing in inadequately staffed medical facilities and corpses were being found in open drains. By mid-March many Muslims had remained missing.

> Muslims were marked as targets for violence. In order to have their religion ascertained, Muslim males—who unlike Hindus are commonly circumcised—were at times forced to remove their lower garments before being brutalised. Among the injuries recorded in one hospital were lacerated genitals. The properties destroyed were disproportionately Muslim-owned and included four mosques, which were set ablaze by rioters. By the end of February, many Muslims had left these neighbourhoods. Even in areas of Delhi untouched by the violence, some Muslims had left for their ancestral villages, fearful for their personal safety in India's capital.

[1] https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/india-genocide-eme...

[2] https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2022/1/16/expert-warns-of...

[3] https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/14/asia/india-hindu-extremist-gr...

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Jawaharlal_Nehru_Universi...

[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Delhi_riots

[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_Muslims_in_In...

Experts cited are Islamic or have Islamic leanings. Can you cite some neutral sources?
Something tells me you had a knee-jerk reaction to an Al Jazeera URL, and then didn't even bother to read any of the citations.

If you had read them, you would have seen that the experts cited in the CNN article, like Gilles Verniers[1], a Catholic, certainly are not Muslim.

Either way, this is the classic ad hominem fallacy.

[1] https://www.ashoka.edu.in/profile/gilles-verniers/

i wouldnt trust al jazeera nor cnn as they have a hinduphobic stance. yes, i dont bother even opening their links. case in point - check these sites how much they have spoken about hindu massacres in moplah, bengal or kashmir or any of the innumerable instances of hindus being victims. the answer is most likely zero(dont trust me, do a search), they arent neutral but simply parroting an agenda.

so yea any other sources?

Yeah, I'm not doing your homework for you. If you want to assert that your ad hominem attack on sources is legitimate, instead of engaging with the content of those sources, you're free to prove it. Your feelings on the matter, however, are not proof.
> corpses were being found in open drains

Let’s see multiple legitimate sources for this one. Police reports are public too. I’d like to see this confirmed. regional language sources are also fine.